Trump to Declare National Emergency Today

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I had a terrific flu last November.
12 hours of puking, fever & chills...followed by couple days of being weak and not able to really eat without being sick.
Then a dry cough for 3 months. Other people I worked with had long lasting coughs associated with flu symptoms right round the same time.

It was highly contagious. Niece -> brother -> me -> mom -> dad -> uncle
Nobody died, but we all felt like dying.

Just doesn’t sound like the same virus.
 

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I don’t understand. It’s chickens and masks right now.

It was sheep and masks earlier...now chickens and masks. Get with the program.

Chickens are cooped up together and when the bird flu strikes a pen of chickens, it’s very serious and they typically have to cull the entire flock because it spreads so quickly. Better for one farmer to loose all of his birds than the entire industry.
 

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from now on Everyone who Gets the Flu bad will be labeled to have Corona virus.
 

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I think everyone is entitled to their opinion here, and mine is it IS NOT just "the flu"!
 

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What I don’t understand about the junk that was going around last fall...it started out like a stomach flu.
Vomiting and diarrhea but then went on to be like Influenza, which is an entirely different type of virus.

I agree that people got very sick, who normally don’t get sick.
Also that it was very easily spread. Guess it’s a good thing it didn’t have a name and we didn’t track it.
 

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I really wish some of you guys, with intact thought processes, reasonable positions, and abilities to see the big picture, would cough up the charter membership fees, and join the Political Forum. You're free to say whatever you want. Kind of. We need you.
 

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What I don’t understand about the junk that was going around last fall...it started out like a stomach flu.
Vomiting and diarrhea but then went on to be like Influenza, which is an entirely different type of virus.

I agree that people got very sick, who normally don’t get sick.
Also that it was very easily spread. Guess it’s a good thing it didn’t have a name and we didn’t track it.

I don’t recall hospitals being overwhelmed last fall by the number of people needing respirators, along with a much higher than usual “flu” death rate.

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2020 sucks so far, covid 19 , power just came back on -went out 430am from 6 inches of heavy wet snow-6 hrs no power 32 degrees-----ready for 2021
 

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I don’t recall hospitals being overwhelmed last fall by the number of people needing respirators, along with a much higher than usual “flu” death rate.

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It’s too bad hospitals here in Michigan, one of the hardest hit of all states, is laying off thousands of staff. The hospital here is like a ghost town? Population of 33k, 232 cases and nine deaths.
 

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I don’t recall hospitals being overwhelmed last fall by the number of people needing respirators, along with a much higher than usual “flu” death rate.

Kindest regards,
Kantuck

No I don’t remember that either.

The thing about hospitals running out of ventilators...I’m wondering how often that has actually happened vs. talk about the possibility and preparing for that possibility.

I understand the couple dozen hot spots in our country having problems because of the enormous density of people crammed into small spaces. But it being a widespread problem..I don’t think so.

Our county is keeping the recovered statistic updated...the confirmed cases last about 2-3 weeks then are moved to recovered. Only one active case currently. I’m wondering why the trend seems to be that the “recovered” numbers don’t seem to reflect this in most places in the country?

Only 60,000 recovered out of 717,000 confirmed cases in the US? Has anybody heard any explanation for the low number of recovered?
 

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What I don’t understand about the junk that was going around last fall...it started out like a stomach flu.
Vomiting and diarrhea but then went on to be like Influenza, which is an entirely different type of virus.

I agree that people got very sick, who normally don’t get sick.
Also that it was very easily spread. Guess it’s a good thing it didn’t have a name and we didn’t track it.

that might have been norovirus, nasty stuff lasts about a week, had it 2yr ago
 

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wow if most of the world just used only 25% of the 275
options to get out of the virus lockdown,without more
transmissions,its going to be a whole new world, until
a vaccine


Informing management of lockdowns and a phased return to normality:
a Solution Scan of non-pharmaceutical options to reduce SARS-CoV-2 transmission
https://covid-19.biorisc.com/
 

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In Michigan, from what I see, it's 30K cases, with 2227 deaths. The hardest state hit is New York, with 241K cases and nearly 18k deaths.
 

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another long heavy read from the micro,bio,scientific community
ive read it about 6x, if im reading and understanding correctly
sounds like bad news from this study,SARS-CoV-2 genomes sampled
from across the world, the virus may need to mutate to overcome
resistance outside East Asia,looking at the network clusters in
the links,it looks like the virus mutates a lot

Mar 12, 2020
According to a genome analysis by Tanja Stadler from the Department
of Biosystems Science and Engineering at ETH Zurich in Basel, the
virus first began transmitting in humans in China as early as the
first half of November 2019
https://www.vox.com/2020/3/4/21156607/how-did-the-coronavirus-get-started-china-wuhan-lab

more latest study
https://www.pnas.org/content/early/2020/04/07/2004999117
pdf of study
https://www.pnas.org/content/pnas/early/2020/04/07/2004999117.full.pdf

Phylogenetic network analysis of SARS-CoV-2 genomes
you can click screenshots see paths
https://www.fluxus-engineering.com/cov2020.htm

Supplementary Figures 1-5 with Figure Legends
https://www.pnas.org/content/pnas/s...99117.DCSupplemental/pnas.2004999117.sapp.pdf

The sequence data contributors are listed in this Excel table
https://www.fluxus-engineering.com/gisaid_cov2020_acknowledgement_table.xls
 

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I really wish some of you guys, with intact thought processes, reasonable positions, and abilities to see the big picture, would cough up the charter membership fees, and join the Political Forum. You're free to say whatever you want. Kind of. We need you.

Hey Kray,

You said about becoming a Charter Member and joining the Political Forum.... "You're Free To Say Whatever You Want" "Kind Of". What does 'KIND OF' mean in there?

Thanks Kray

Kace
 

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