🥇 BANNER SIG SEMPER TYRANNIS VIRGINIA (plate)

[Gary1963]

Found this item today. Would like to have validated by the civil war pros here on this forum. Measures 2.5 inches across .Thanks for any input.

 

[wheatfinder13]

Wow, that is so cool

 

[Jason in Enid]

Sic Semper Tyrannis "Thus ever to tyrants" I'm no expert, but it looks like the pics I looked up.

 

[Flathead25]

WOAH!! I'll let the pros/experts on here confirm it, but it looks to me like a VA cross belt plate. I think they are very rare. I'll definiteley be watching this thread to see what happens...you might have an amazing find! Either way,AWESOME!

 

[BuckleBoy]

Wow, Wow, WOW~! Don't try to bend it back.

 

[BuckleBoy]

Seems a little small for a breastplate at 2.5 inches in diameter, but it's gotta be a breastplate.

I have seen and held VA sword belt plates. But I've never even seen a VA breastplate. My O'Donnell book is not handy right now, but I'm sure someone with a copy will ID that item for you shortly.

Cheers,

Buck

 

[Valley Ranger]

That's a dream find for any Virginian! Congratulations.

 

[Flathead25]

They are listed at 65 mm. Or 2.5"

 

[Iron Patch]

Seems a little small for a breastplate at 2.5 inches in diameter, but it's gotta be a breastplate.

I have seen and held VA sword belt plates. But I've never even seen a VA breastplate. My O'Donnell book is not handy right now, but I'm sure someone with a copy will ID that item for you shortly.

Cheers,

Buck

Don't remember this one?

http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/what/239597-i-think-i-may-have-found-something-good.html


Note one of the posts....

Southie E.J. wondering if yours has the pin hook backside
like in fig B,i cant find a pic of the back of the seal
to see what it looks like, could we see the back, of yours
and see which one you have,they look a lot alike from the
front,both are prob equally rare, nice finds

jpg links
A
http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...ted.google.com

B
MORE BUCKLES: PAGE TWO
T - 121 Virginia Breast Plate

Circa 1850

(T-121 can be cast as a breast plate or buckle.)

TG- 121 Virginia Breast Plate

"original look with the pin type attachment"

 

[BuckleBoy]

They are listed at 65 mm. Or 2.5"

Were they Pin-backed or lead-filled?

These VA breastplates have gotta be rare as they can be. I've seen a lot of fine VA relics, but never seen one dug.

This belongs on the banner, IMO.

 

[Flathead25]

Pin backed from what I can find. I'm with you on the banner!

 

[Flathead25]

Ridgeway has one on his site. References "Mullinax expanded edition, plate 437". Stamped brass with pin back.

 

[Doc Arey]

Wow!

 

[Gary1963]

The picture on the right is the back. Iron patch T-121 looks like it. The only other info I've found was that it was pre civil war, usually mount on a light web belt and was not suited for hard campaigning.

 

[BuckleBoy]

Don't remember this one?

http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/what/239597-i-think-i-may-have-found-something-good.html

Never saw it. I would have replied if I had! Contrary to popular belief I don't look at everything that is posted on Tnet. Probably passed over it with a title like "i think i may have found something good."

I'll be honest, this plate belongs on the finds banner. If professionally unbent (which should be a hundred dollar repair), it would likely go for the 5-6K range. Certainly a banner find!

 

[hogge]

Incredible relic! Banner

 

[Gary1963]

BuckleBoy I'm glad I was sitting down when you told me the potential value. Can you recommend someone who is able to straighten.

 

[stewielouie]

Congrats on the great virginia find, definately a banner find! May I ask where in Va?

 

[Flathead25]

I'm glad this one picked back up! I was afraid it would get lost in the shuffle. I hate to sound ignorant, but can a jr. Member such as myself nominate this as a banner find? I would have as soon as I saw it on here last night, but not sure how it works. Again, absolutely AWESOME! From a fellow Virginian, i know you'll treasure that find!

 

[Greylock]

Awesome find. My votes in