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It was pay back time for Shaun7, so he was invited up to help me with the best available field. He even got an early Friday night so as to get up on time :D Big kid & Xmas comes to mind :thumbsup:

Usual buttons...
Lead Tokens
Royal & Rose Farthings
17th C Tokens
Jettons
Coin & bullion Weights
Medieval Strapend
7 Roman Coins
1/2 of a Saxon Strapend 8)
William III battered Sixpence
Hammered of Henry III :) The streak continues...
1600s Spanish Copper Coin, only my 3rd :icon_thumright: Hispan can you ID?

We had a great time & what I thought to be my best button of the day, turns out to be a Quality Medieval Religious Mount :o Real nice patina on this piece with the inscription; ECCE:AGNUS:DEI:ECCE:Q'T' - quotes Saint John the Baptist's words, "Behold the lamb of God which take away the sin of the world" (John 1:29). It was lieing on the top but with mud covering the figure, I pointed it out to Shaun7 first but I wish I had got a picture now :P
 

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Pretty awesome condition! Too bad about the broken button shank. ;D
 
Iron Patch said:
Pretty awesome condition! Too bad about the broken button shank. ;D

When I thought it was a button, I said to Shaun7 its my fav of the day, better than the Henry III hammered, now I know its a top quality mount I'm even happier it, need some research on it, never seen one like it or similar :-\
 
CRUSADER said:
Iron Patch said:
Pretty awesome condition! Too bad about the broken button shank. ;D

When I thought it was a button, I said to Shaun7 its my fav of the day, better than the Henry III hammered, now I know its a top quality mount I'm even happier it, need some research on it, never seen one like it or similar :-\


It has lots going for it so it should be good news.
 
Great finds like always! What do you do with all your buttons box them or display them? Keep up the great work. :thumbsup:
 
collector01 said:
Great finds like always! What do you do with all your buttons box them or display them? Keep up the great work. :thumbsup:


Sends them to me to spread around my fields. ;D
 
That was the find of the day :icon_thumleft: Looks much better cleaned up :o
 
collector01 said:
Great finds like always! What do you do with all your buttons box them or display them? Keep up the great work. :thumbsup:
I had some on display in the local museum for a few years, then rotated thyem with other items. The ones I keep are seperated into several printing block trays. The plain types are boxed & sold (I used to chuck them).
 
shaun7 said:
That was the find of the day :icon_thumleft: Looks much better cleaned up :o

I'm well pleased with it, think how well the insitu might have been :(
 
CRUSADER said:
shaun7 said:
That was the find of the day :icon_thumleft: Looks much better cleaned up :o

I'm well pleased with it, think how well the insitu might have been :(



That is a shame :-\
 
The override is done on Spanish coin during the reign of Philip III and IV. Specifically, and to Philip III in 1603. For his part, and Philip IV, counterstamps performed in the years 1636, 1641, 1652.1654 and 1658. Everyone should be approved by the Royal Pragmatic and have their different values as well as many prints.
On November 11, 1651 were sent to reseal all the parts were worth one two maravedíes from the order of 1642. The new quadruple override these values one and two (from four and eight, respectively) and leaving the pieces, consequently, in their original values before the order. This case did not affect the small change that was jogging with values four and eight.
The counterstamps are therefore four ( 4 ) and eight ( 8 ) . For the first time will be used to override the Arabic number. So to override the four brand be 4 accompanied on each side of a cross. The other will override the famous number 8, which have a large range of fringes. The reverse is the year 1651 and 1652 within the oval border, with the mint below.
establishing the obligation of people to approach closer to the Mint to proceed with the resealing.
Thus, a person having two maravedíes 100 coins (100 x 2: 200) should pass through the nearest mint, where they are resellarían to 4, so that its value would become 400 maravedíes.
(100 x 4: 400)
That person is you would return its 200 maravedíes in the form of 50 coins.
(50 x 4: 200).
The remaining fifty coins would be for the National Treasury.
And that, indeed, the counterstamps are a true reflection of the history of my country in the seventeenth century, when the Spanish Empire and begins its inexorable decline.
All this happened during the severe crisis of the 17th century....but your coin before being new stamped had this look so different: :wink:
 

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HISPAN said:
The override is done on Spanish currency during the reign of Philip III and IV. Specifically, and to Philip III in 1603. For his part, and Philip IV, counterstamps performed in the years 1636, 1641, 1652.1654 and 1658. Everyone should be approved by the Royal Pragmatic and have their different values as well as many prints.
On November 11, 1651 were sent to reseal all the parts were worth one two maravedíes from the order of 1642. The new quadruple override these values one and two (from four and eight, respectively) and leaving the pieces, consequently, in their original values before the order. This case did not affect the small change that was jogging with values four and eight.
The counterstamps are therefore four ( 4 ) and eight ( 8 ) . For the first time will be used to override the Arabic number. So to override the four brand be 4 accompanied on each side of a cross. The other will override the famous number 8, which have a large range of fringes. The reverse is the year 1651 and 1652 within the oval border, with the mint below.
establishing the obligation of people to approach closer to the Mint to proceed with the resealing.
Thus, a person having two maravedíes 100 coins (100 x 2: 200) should pass through the nearest mint, where they are resellarían to 4, so that its value would become 400 maravedíes.
(100 x 4: 400)
That person is you would return its 200 maravedíes in the form of 50 coins.
(50 x 4: 200).
The remaining fifty coins would be for the Treasury.
And that, indeed, the counterstamps are a true reflection of the history of my country in the seventeenth century, when the Spanish Empire and begins its inexorable decline.
All this happened during the severe crisis of the 17th century, but its currency above to be resealed had this look so different:

Thanks, I can see the 1658 counterstamp on mind :icon_thumright:
 
CRUSADER said:
HISPAN said:
The override is done on Spanish currency during the reign of Philip III and IV. Specifically, and to Philip III in 1603. For his part, and Philip IV, counterstamps performed in the years 1636, 1641, 1652.1654 and 1658. Everyone should be approved by the Royal Pragmatic and have their different values as well as many prints.
On November 11, 1651 were sent to reseal all the parts were worth one two maravedíes from the order of 1642. The new quadruple override these values one and two (from four and eight, respectively) and leaving the pieces, consequently, in their original values before the order. This case did not affect the small change that was jogging with values four and eight.
The counterstamps are therefore four ( 4 ) and eight ( 8 ) . For the first time will be used to override the Arabic number. So to override the four brand be 4 accompanied on each side of a cross. The other will override the famous number 8, which have a large range of fringes. The reverse is the year 1651 and 1652 within the oval border, with the mint below.
establishing the obligation of people to approach closer to the Mint to proceed with the resealing.
Thus, a person having two maravedíes 100 coins (100 x 2: 200) should pass through the nearest mint, where they are resellarían to 4, so that its value would become 400 maravedíes.
(100 x 4: 400)
That person is you would return its 200 maravedíes in the form of 50 coins.
(50 x 4: 200).
The remaining fifty coins would be for the Treasury.
And that, indeed, the counterstamps are a true reflection of the history of my country in the seventeenth century, when the Spanish Empire and begins its inexorable decline.
All this happened during the severe crisis of the 17th century, but its currency above to be resealed had this look so different:

Thanks, I can see the 1658 counterstamp on mind :icon_thumright:


The final identification would be:
stamped 8 Maravedis (1651/1652).in override a four Maravedis coin (1601 / 1620). :headbang:
 
Another great day for the assortment of finds. Liking the button. :icon_thumright:
 
10 hours with Shaun? How do you do it? :tongue3:

That mount is quite a find--and it's a crackerjack condition-wise. I'll be looking for your update with some more info about it.

Cheers,


Buckles
 
HISPAN said:
CRUSADER said:
HISPAN said:
The override is done on Spanish currency during the reign of Philip III and IV. Specifically, and to Philip III in 1603. For his part, and Philip IV, counterstamps performed in the years 1636, 1641, 1652.1654 and 1658. Everyone should be approved by the Royal Pragmatic and have their different values as well as many prints.
On November 11, 1651 were sent to reseal all the parts were worth one two maravedíes from the order of 1642. The new quadruple override these values one and two (from four and eight, respectively) and leaving the pieces, consequently, in their original values before the order. This case did not affect the small change that was jogging with values four and eight.
The counterstamps are therefore four ( 4 ) and eight ( 8 ) . For the first time will be used to override the Arabic number. So to override the four brand be 4 accompanied on each side of a cross. The other will override the famous number 8, which have a large range of fringes. The reverse is the year 1651 and 1652 within the oval border, with the mint below.
establishing the obligation of people to approach closer to the Mint to proceed with the resealing.
Thus, a person having two maravedíes 100 coins (100 x 2: 200) should pass through the nearest mint, where they are resellarían to 4, so that its value would become 400 maravedíes.
(100 x 4: 400)
That person is you would return its 200 maravedíes in the form of 50 coins.
(50 x 4: 200).
The remaining fifty coins would be for the Treasury.
And that, indeed, the counterstamps are a true reflection of the history of my country in the seventeenth century, when the Spanish Empire and begins its inexorable decline.
All this happened during the severe crisis of the 17th century, but its currency above to be resealed had this look so different:

Thanks, I can see the 1658 counterstamp on mind :icon_thumright:


The final identification would be:
stamped 8 Maravedis (1651/1652).in override a four Maravedis coin (1601 / 1620). :headbang:
Thanks for the help, I like finding these as it gives me hope of getting a silver one :-\

It also makes a lot of sense in this field as we had a copper crisis in the 1650s-70s when all the brass tokens were produced by the shops/pubs which I find a lot of in this field. They would have accepted anything copper/bronze in that period.
 
BuckleBoy said:
10 hours with Shaun? How do you do it? :tongue3:

That mount is quite a find--and it's a crackerjack condition-wise. I'll be looking for your update with some more info about it.

Cheers,


Buckles
I've clocked up just short of 30 hours digging in the last 4 days, just getting ready to go out again, although I'm in some pain writing this now :P So how do I do it? By being an idiot & injuring myself :tongue3:
 
CRUSADER said:
BuckleBoy said:
10 hours with Shaun? How do you do it? :tongue3:

That mount is quite a find--and it's a crackerjack condition-wise. I'll be looking for your update with some more info about it.

Cheers,


Buckles
I've clocked up just short of 30 hours digging in the last 4 days, just getting ready to go out again, although I'm in some pain writing this now :P So how do I do it? By being an idiot & injuring myself :tongue3:



Good luck today :icon_thumleft:

I'm off for a fun packed evening at Southend :BangHead:
 
Well done to both of ya - some great finds there! :hello2:
 

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