14kHz didn't even touch these
- Thread starter Bharpring
- Start date
OP
OP
Bharpring
Bronze Member
- Dec 29, 2016
- 1,451
- 5,895
- 🏆 Honorable Mentions:
- 3
- Detector(s) used
- XP Deus HF coils, Minelab Equinox 800
- Primary Interest:
- All Treasure Hunting
- Thread starter
- #2
Pitch program
Freq 28 kHz
React 2.5
Silencer -1
Sense 90
Iron Vol 1
Notch 98-99
Disc 10
This relic program rocks in iron (not that great in modern trash)
Freq 28 kHz
React 2.5
Silencer -1
Sense 90
Iron Vol 1
Notch 98-99
Disc 10
This relic program rocks in iron (not that great in modern trash)
trdking
Gold Member
- Feb 28, 2015
- 5,139
- 7,923
- Detector(s) used
-
Minelab CTX 3030
AT Pro
- Primary Interest:
- All Treasure Hunting
Hertz don't it?
You ought to see what bumping it to 74 khz does. I dug a plain eagle button 9-10 inches down with that frequency last weekend.
- Jul 19, 2015
- 4,910
- 8,377
- Detector(s) used
- XP Deus with HF/x35 Coils and Mi6 Pinpointer/ML Equinox 600/800/ML Tarsacci MDT 8000 GPX 4800/Garrett ATX/Fisher F75 DST/Tek G2+/Delta/Whites MXT/Nokta Simplex/Garrett Carrot
- Primary Interest:
- All Treasure Hunting
Makes sense. Mid-conductors like the higher frequency, those look mostly like mid-conductors. Can't be sure just from the pic, but doesn't look like any high conductors (e.g. silver, pure copper).
Last edited:
OP
OP
Bharpring
Bronze Member
- Dec 29, 2016
- 1,451
- 5,895
- 🏆 Honorable Mentions:
- 3
- Detector(s) used
- XP Deus HF coils, Minelab Equinox 800
- Primary Interest:
- All Treasure Hunting
- Thread starter
- #6
They are all brass pieces and found at a spot that I have been to no less than 50 times over last year because it produced so much stuff. Up until yesterday I had only used the 9" LF round coil at this spot. So yesterday I interrogated the targets with the 9" HF round coil using 14kHz and then 28kHz and only heard them with 28kHz.
The area is littered with old iron big and small. No modern trash at all.
The 2 smaller fancy buttons and the tombac button I found at depths between 7" and 9" and the fancy little buckle was about 6" deep. Each plug had multiple nails of all sizes.
I believe that it was the unmasking ability of the higher frequency in iron that made these targets available, since I could not find them with the lower 14kHz.
Anyway, I thought that I would share.
I had a blast finding this old colonial stuff!
- Apr 18, 2016
- 5,300
- 11,756
- 🥇 Banner finds
- 2
- Detector(s) used
- XP DEUS II ,XP DEUS, EQUINOX 800, EXCALIBUR II,
- Primary Interest:
- All Treasure Hunting
thanks for sharing that and congrats on the finds. I have been reluctant to hunt in the higher freqs so thanks again for sharing that. My buddy dug a piece of pewter spoon at a foot the other day in 28 kh with the round coil I couldn't believe my eyes.
I thought the 74 khz would be useless. I was wrong. Some items have come from 10-14" deep, HOWEVER if there is a shallow good target the response will blow off your head.
- Jul 19, 2015
- 4,910
- 8,377
- Detector(s) used
- XP Deus with HF/x35 Coils and Mi6 Pinpointer/ML Equinox 600/800/ML Tarsacci MDT 8000 GPX 4800/Garrett ATX/Fisher F75 DST/Tek G2+/Delta/Whites MXT/Nokta Simplex/Garrett Carrot
- Primary Interest:
- All Treasure Hunting
And bharping, you make a good point about interrogating a potentially masked target at 28 khz or higher because even if the target itself is not a mid-conductor, the higher frequency can help separate non-ferrous from ferrous better because of the higher resolution afforded by the smaller wavelength of the higher frequency.
Regarding your program, looks great the only comment I would have is be careful about using the iron wraparound notch (at 97-99) for the hf frequencies (i.e., 28khz and above) because it is more likely that legit high conductors get pushed up into that TID range because their is no ID normalization on the hf coils. I have 14k pitch program just like yours (though I bump iron vol up to 3) with the 97-99 notch, then an identical one at 28khz but no notches.
Regarding your program, looks great the only comment I would have is be careful about using the iron wraparound notch (at 97-99) for the hf frequencies (i.e., 28khz and above) because it is more likely that legit high conductors get pushed up into that TID range because their is no ID normalization on the hf coils. I have 14k pitch program just like yours (though I bump iron vol up to 3) with the 97-99 notch, then an identical one at 28khz but no notches.
Last edited:
OP
OP
Bharpring
Bronze Member
- Dec 29, 2016
- 1,451
- 5,895
- 🏆 Honorable Mentions:
- 3
- Detector(s) used
- XP Deus HF coils, Minelab Equinox 800
- Primary Interest:
- All Treasure Hunting
- Thread starter
- #10
Yes, the notch is tricky for the high conductors at depth. But what I have found is that notching 98 and 99 (at Freq 28) doesn't completely kill the high conductor targets that create a pure signal at TIDs 98 and 99. I still hear them for some reason. Maybe because those high conductive targets start sounding off at 96 or 97 and then go up to 98 and 99? Maybe the Deus won't let you just swing over a good target without some kind of sound?
What the notching does for this site is stop me from digging big chunks of iron pot fragments.
But you are right about notching and possibly loosing good targets.
What the notching does for this site is stop me from digging big chunks of iron pot fragments.
But you are right about notching and possibly loosing good targets.
- Apr 18, 2016
- 5,300
- 11,756
- 🥇 Banner finds
- 2
- Detector(s) used
- XP DEUS II ,XP DEUS, EQUINOX 800, EXCALIBUR II,
- Primary Interest:
- All Treasure Hunting
love the program but that notch window scares me have showed it in videos knocking out high conductive deep targets...
I have done well and I don't play with the notches. I generally set my machine on "idiot" mode, with me being the idiot then just change frequencies as desired.
- Apr 18, 2016
- 5,300
- 11,756
- 🥇 Banner finds
- 2
- Detector(s) used
- XP DEUS II ,XP DEUS, EQUINOX 800, EXCALIBUR II,
- Primary Interest:
- All Treasure Hunting
I hunted in a high emi area today in 54 kh and 74 kh and it worked well, its a place that renders detectors useless..
Jason in Enid
Gold Member
- Oct 10, 2009
- 9,593
- 9,229
- Primary Interest:
- All Treasure Hunting
I love reading these posts about the V4 HF DEUS settings and finds. ITs helping me understand how I can get the best results from the Equinox (when it releases). I think those of you with DEUS experience are going to have a foot up on us that don't.
JackalopeZL1
Bronze Member
- Nov 22, 2014
- 1,721
- 2,893
- Detector(s) used
- CTX 3030, Deus 2, Soon to be manticore
- Primary Interest:
- All Treasure Hunting
I took the 9"hf out in the yard for the first time today and I heard signals I never heard before. I did not dig any though. I did notice it followed my old water pipe rather well too..hahaha Looking forward to digging the others
As most would guess it was not as deep in the test garden for me on silver coins as the 9"LF but it was a quieter coil for sure. I have few sights I want to go swing it loaded with Iron..
As most would guess it was not as deep in the test garden for me on silver coins as the 9"LF but it was a quieter coil for sure. I have few sights I want to go swing it loaded with Iron..
Last edited:
OP
OP
Bharpring
Bronze Member
- Dec 29, 2016
- 1,451
- 5,895
- 🏆 Honorable Mentions:
- 3
- Detector(s) used
- XP Deus HF coils, Minelab Equinox 800
- Primary Interest:
- All Treasure Hunting
- Thread starter
- #18
That 74 kh really gets after it, doesn't it? I'm a big fan of the 74 kh (elliptical). I have found my best finds with it.
Swaveab
Hero Member
So you guys have to go over the same site with each khz setting? Very redundant.
- Apr 18, 2016
- 5,300
- 11,756
- 🥇 Banner finds
- 2
- Detector(s) used
- XP DEUS II ,XP DEUS, EQUINOX 800, EXCALIBUR II,
- Primary Interest:
- All Treasure Hunting
we just follow minelab users around on relic sites mainly and find the relics they missed with their fbs machines...
Yes different kh unlocks targets in different situations,,,and no I don't always comb sites in different freqs depends on the situation, time frame, what kind of relics came from there,,etc, its just now starting to be found how MUCH advantage there is to a machine that can change such a broad range of freqs... why do you think the NEW EQUINNOX has that feature? Deus is the for runner in that department with not having to buy a different coil for each freq that exttera line. I think the deus has the advantage over the fbs because it will hit high conducters and low conducters equally hard and fbs likes high conducters.
Yes different kh unlocks targets in different situations,,,and no I don't always comb sites in different freqs depends on the situation, time frame, what kind of relics came from there,,etc, its just now starting to be found how MUCH advantage there is to a machine that can change such a broad range of freqs... why do you think the NEW EQUINNOX has that feature? Deus is the for runner in that department with not having to buy a different coil for each freq that exttera line. I think the deus has the advantage over the fbs because it will hit high conducters and low conducters equally hard and fbs likes high conducters.
