1652 pine tree shilling

[Numismatics4life]

I can't seem to figure out if this is authentic would someone be able to help me?
here is the coin

 

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[Numismatics4life]

so do you think it is real ARRC?

 

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[cw0909]

i lightened them up,and turned it around so the folks, that know can see it better

 

[ARC]

I think I see it too potent... or my eyes are playing tricks on me... suggestive etc..
let me whip it up on the 40 inch with progs... brb

 

[ARC]

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Dog hair for size reference... heh j/k

here is my copy...
lettering is same font style... AS SUGGESTED...
I pulled up on 40 sony high res monitor and then zoomed in...
I see it but I don't...
almost like shopped... NOT THAT IT IS OR WAS...
it is almost there... but cannot peg it...

BTW great eyes/catch potent.

 

[Numismatics4life]

I took alook at where it is thought to say copy and it is actually tiny divots caused by wear and dirt

 

[cw0909]

maybe, its something another contrast shot

 

[ARC]

It is like the "copy" stamp did not "take"...
it has not been worn off.

 

[Numismatics4life]

im going to post an image of the die crack on the coin showing the edge the obverse and the reverse in case it would help

 

[ARC]

A better photo ... macro of date side would be helpful CLOSE iN AND CLEAR.

 

[Ahab8]

That def looks like a Y and something in front of it. The crack is concerning. A silver coin normally doesn't have that sort of thing happen. Ok let me step back and say welcome to the forum my friend. I love that you're young and passionate about old coins. That's really cool. Do you metal detect? It's a great way to start a nice coin collection. It's hard with these really old coins as they were crude to start with. There's a couple of guys on here who have a ton of experience and really know their stuff. They seem to think it's fake and they are right 98% of the time. That said I would tell mom or dad to take you to a reputable coin dealer. Do a little homework first and see who locally is knowledgeable with early colonial silvers. Holding a coin in your hand makes it much easier to make an accurate assessment. Regardless which way it goes were happy to have you. Never hesitate to ask lots of questions. There are some legitimate experts on here that i trust completely. When I found my tree coin the first thing I did was contact a member on here for advise on how to clean my coin without screwing it up. He gave me great advise and I was beyond happy with the result. If I found an $88,000 coin I would do the same. Lots of coin dealers are completely clueless when it comes to colonials and cleaning methods. Where do you live my friend?

 

[cw0909]

could be worn or didnt take, need a look through a loupe
one more

 

[Numismatics4life]

here it is

 

[ARC]

A better photo ... macro of date side would be helpful CLOSE iN AND CLEAR.

Date side.

 

[Numismatics4life]

ok I got a clearer image of the date side

 

[ARC]

I do not know about everyone else...
But...
I REALLY LIKE this coin.

 

[Numismatics4life]

so do you think it is real?

 

[ARC]

Let me ask... how come 2 sets of pics so different in quality and lighting..
take photo like you did with side shot... same dat side but where and how you took the other side.

 

[Numismatics4life]

im in a different room than yesterday

 

[bigfoot1]

here is the bad news on this coin...yup it says copy in the very same place

and his...sure does seem that it said copy

 

[Iron Patch]

Even if it said genuine it would still be fake.