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Looks like a 1/2R of Felipe V--from Mexico City--from the period 1701 through 1733.
If its weight is between 1.6 to 1.7 grams it's a 1/2R. If about 3.5 grams, then it's a1R.
The date would be in the 10 o'clock position (off the coin) and the assayer's initial is below the 'M' .
The choices for an assayer are I, J. D, R. and MF; yours appears as a 'D'.
Don in SoCal
If its weight is between 1.6 to 1.7 grams it's a 1/2R. If about 3.5 grams, then it's a1R.
The date would be in the 10 o'clock position (off the coin) and the assayer's initial is below the 'M' .
The choices for an assayer are I, J. D, R. and MF; yours appears as a 'D'.
Don in SoCal
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Great find! I have never had the good fortune to dig one of those. Nicely done. Congrats!
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Congratulations on a nice little cob coin. Don in SoCal is 100% right on his info. In the Practical Book of Cobs you can find the dates each assayer worked at the Mexico City mint. I remember the R assayer only worked from 1729 to 1730 so you can get a more precise date on your coin if you can read the letter below the mint mark.
Great find, stay safe, good luck and keep swingin.
Great find, stay safe, good luck and keep swingin.
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WTG on the Reale, always great to see one of those in the hole!
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Great find!
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A great find !
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You may have a relatively rare coin.
Some history.........
Philip V ('PV') ruled Spain twice, first during the period 1700 to January 14, 1724, then again from Sept. 6, 1724 to his death in 1746. During the period between January and (actually) August 31, 1724, his eldest son, Luis I ruled. (Luis I became king after his father, 'PV' . abdicated the throne; but Luis I died from smallpox in the same year.) As you might imagine, coins from this 8-month reign of Luis I are rare and command a higher value.
What helps (not determines) to separate the 1/2R coinage between those minted during Philip V or Luis I reign is the mintmark. The assayer 'D' was only the assayer between the years 1724 and 1728; and Luis I ruled only during the year 1724--so 'D' was the only assayer during the reign of Luis I. Assuming 'D' is the assayer's mark, then the OP's coin was minted between 1724 and 1728; hopefully, only during the reign of Luis I.
Coins with the 'D' assayer mark are sometimes marketed as belonging to Luis I (higher value); however, they could also be credited to Philip V, during PV 's second term from 1724 to 1728 (lesser value).
Don in SoCal
Some history.........
Philip V ('PV') ruled Spain twice, first during the period 1700 to January 14, 1724, then again from Sept. 6, 1724 to his death in 1746. During the period between January and (actually) August 31, 1724, his eldest son, Luis I ruled. (Luis I became king after his father, 'PV' . abdicated the throne; but Luis I died from smallpox in the same year.) As you might imagine, coins from this 8-month reign of Luis I are rare and command a higher value.
What helps (not determines) to separate the 1/2R coinage between those minted during Philip V or Luis I reign is the mintmark. The assayer 'D' was only the assayer between the years 1724 and 1728; and Luis I ruled only during the year 1724--so 'D' was the only assayer during the reign of Luis I. Assuming 'D' is the assayer's mark, then the OP's coin was minted between 1724 and 1728; hopefully, only during the reign of Luis I.
Coins with the 'D' assayer mark are sometimes marketed as belonging to Luis I (higher value); however, they could also be credited to Philip V, during PV 's second term from 1724 to 1728 (lesser value).
Don in SoCal
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Thanks for the detailed explanation.
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Awesome!!!! Congrats!!!
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Great find! Tell us more about the where’s and when’s, ID #
I'm a bit late replying on this cob ... However ... your cob was (most likely) struck between 1729 - 1730 at the Mexico City colonial mint, under mint assayer Nicolas de Rojas ,"R" assayer mark (just below the o/M mint mark, left of PH V's monogram) ...
You's is a particularly well-stuck example, with a full cross, & great detail on the crown & monogram ...kudos on this one! ...
Here's a link for one sold in 2020, not nearly as nice as yours ... https://auction.sedwickcoins.com/item.aspx?i=36805678
I'd put a value at easily 2.5x on yours ... hope this helps ...
You's is a particularly well-stuck example, with a full cross, & great detail on the crown & monogram ...kudos on this one! ...
Here's a link for one sold in 2020, not nearly as nice as yours ... https://auction.sedwickcoins.com/item.aspx?i=36805678
I'd put a value at easily 2.5x on yours ... hope this helps ...
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Massive Congratulations!
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