1776 Trench Art Belt Plate

[Hunter1805]

Here you go ... If you have information please share it... Real Keeper and You know the rest. E-Mail me or leave a message.

 

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[mojjax]

Awesome !!!

 

[relic lover]

Love it.

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[DCMatt]

Wow!

From the sun rising over the mountains in the background, I would guess it is a NY plate.

Will you tell us where it was dug?

DCMatt

 

[relic nut]

That is very cool!!! Thanks for sharing. [emoji106]

HH RN

 

[sutphin]

DANG THATS AWSOME BUCKLE .

 

[jewelerguy]

rather than Revolutionary War period, I would lean more towards it being 1830's New York Militia or National Guard shoulder belt plate, dressed up by it's owner no doubt

 

[The Seeker]

That looks to me to be a piece from the time of the Revolution or maybe even earlier... Possible Sullivan's Campaign through New York state! interesting.....keep on Digging!

 

[villagenut]

Outstanding piece of history, nothing is as special as an artifact with the personal touch. But a finder's story is just as important.

 

[Hunter1805]

I was thinking it was 1776. I would want a value and some idea about dating the plate. Please feel free to copy and send around for a better idea of dating and value. Thanks for all your comments now please help me get the answers to age and value.. I know its a keeper. It was found at an old cellar hole in southern New York state. Thanks for your help ..

 

[Isaac]

Can't be 1776. It's probably 1812 era due to the eagle design. That design clutched with the olive branches and arrows did not come about until after the Revolution. Still an incredible find.

 

[nhbenz]

Great find. The same question about the date came up in this old thread: http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/what/355181-revolutionary-war-era-belt-plate.html
My thoughts are that you can't date the plate itself on the design, which may have been added later.
But I wouldn't know the difference, since I don't even know if the plate design was different in the two wars. The other thread has a link to email Don Troiani, which seems like a good idea.

 

[sutphin]

HUNTER I WOULD HANG ONTO THAT BUCKLE AND WOULDNT SELL IT FOR ANY PRICE . YOU HAVE ONE HELLUVA PEICE OF HISTORY. BUT THATS MY OPINON SO BEST OF LUCK NO MATTER THE OUT COME .

 

[sutphin]

HUNTER THERE IS A PIC IN MY BOOK OF THE BACK OF A BUCKLE LIKE YOURS THAT HAS THE SAME STUDS AND CLASP DATING 1792-1796 ONLY THING DIFFRENT IS THE DESIGN ON THE FACE . MAN HANG ON TO THAT JEWEL . DONT TAKE MY DATING FOR ACCURACY . REV WAR ??

 

[jaelus]

I was thinking it was 1776. I would want a value and some idea about dating the plate. Please feel free to copy and send around for a better idea of dating and value. Thanks for all your comments now please help me get the answers to age and value.. I know its a keeper. It was found at an old cellar hole in southern New York state. Thanks for your help ..

Can't possibly be that early. The eagle wasn't even adopted as the heraldry of the US until 1782, and the style of depiction of the eagle here wasn't used until around 1809. This is certainly going to be post-1810. Perhaps others can find additional clues.

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[rreahard]

Very cool find!!

 

[DCMatt]

I looked a little deeper on this. It appears to be a US regulation 1808 pattern shoulder belt buckle. These were issued 1808 - 1819. I saw several examples on the internet of these buckles being engraved by soldiers.

http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/what/444201-mystery-shoulder-belt-plate-id-needed.html

 

[DCMatt]

I saw a couple of these plates on the internet - not as nice as yours - selling in the $300 to $400 range.

http://www.civilwarshotandshellrelics.com/pb40.html

 

[cw0909]

an article on measurements for the attachment devices and size of plate
and maker info, figs, 4 & 5 has attachments that looks like yours

http://americansocietyofarmscollect...net-belt-plate-US-Army-B064_Nannos_Gaede1.pdf

 

[Iron Patch]

What a great find!