1808 Pattern Variant Military Shoulder Plate

[Hill Billy]

The plate has been id'd by Vol1266-x at post #30.
Thanks Quindy.



Got back out today with BBoy on the site I hit on Monday and the finds were still there. I found a bridal rosette, and a cloak pin at that site. We carried on to another site BBoy had researched and it was a sweet site. We found at least 20 flat buttons there, a few were pewter and a couple tombacs. BBoy found some buttons right away and we knew we were where we wanted to be. We started hitting it hard when I got a a signal that screamed LC. I told BBoy here comes a largie and he walked over to witness the unearthing. Sure enough, out pops this beautiful Matron Head. We kept at it for another 2 hours and it seemed like flat button after flat button.In the end I dug my first Jews Harp, and it was made of iron. All in all a great hunt for us and I'm sure BBoy will be adding to this post later.
Thanks for looking
Hill

 

[Hill Billy]

Re: Hill Billy Strikes Again!

Congrats on another successful copper hunt. The buttons were popping, so you know the coppers were just around the corner. Good luck on your next hunt! I live in Colonial PA and have yet to dig a Jews Harp. I figure I will snag one soon.

I just got off the phone with Kyle and we both noticed what looks like a knee buckle in your picture? Were you guys in Kentucky or Southern Indiana? Keep hitting that site with your electronic machine.

Kirk

Thanks, Guess it's my year to find some coppers, the jews harp was sweet to find in Colonial Ky.
What picture Kirk are you referring to with the knee buckle?

Man H.B. you are really good at this. Maybe those goat horns are copper antennas.
Chris

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They are my copper dowsing rods Chris. You should try some.

 

[coinmaster2db]

Re: Hill Billy Strikes Again!

Diggin' while I'm workin'.......... .......It just ain't right. Congrats on the Large Cent!! Looks like the fields are being planted now , so we're either in the woods feeding the ticks, digging can slaw in yards, or dodging the cow patties. I'll take option #3.

HH!!
Cm2db

 

[BuckleBoy]

Re: Hill Billy Strikes Again!

Looks like the fields are being planted now , so we're either in the woods feeding the ticks, digging can slaw in yards, or dodging the cow patties. I'll take option #3.

HH!!
Cm2db

Me too!

 

[{Sentinel}]

Re: Hill Billy Strikes Again!

Looks like the fields are being planted now , so we're either in the woods feeding the ticks, digging can slaw in yards, or dodging the cow patties. I'll take option #3.

HH!!
Cm2db

Me too!

Nice finds HB, nice lil roll you're on.. I'd also rather be out in the fields

 

[VOL1266-X]

Re: Hill Billy Strikes Again!

Very Nice HB!!! The rectangular brass piece on the left in your first pic looks a lot like a sheet brass militia buckle if it's not too small. Does it have green solder remnants? I am attaching a pic of one (upper right corner of box) that I found down here at the Battle of Hartsville site. A noted local relic hunter and dealer said was a CS militia plate.
Nice relics HB. Dman and I scouted a place in Southern KY last Friday looking for a U.S. camp. The only Yankees there flew over in a plane-LOL. HH, Quindy.

 

[Hill Billy]

Re: Hill Billy Strikes Again!

Very Nice HB!!! The rectangular brass piece on the left in your first pic looks a lot like a sheet brass militia buckle if it's no too small. Does it have green solder remnants? I am attaching a pic of one (upper right corner of box) that I found down here at the Battle of Hartsville site. A noted local relic hunter and dealer said was a CS militia plate.
Nice relics HB. Dman and I scouted a place in Southern KY last Friday looking for a U.S. camp. The only Yankees there flew over in a plane-LOL. HH, Quindy.

Thanks Quindy, here is a pic of the back.
Wow, a CS Militia plate, that would be sweet!

 

[BuckleBoy]

Re: Hill Billy Strikes Again!

It's definitely a plate, HB. I haven't seen one like it before.

 

[VOL1266-X]

Re: Hill Billy Strikes Again!

HB, go to relic #20 on this link:

http://www.midtenrelics.com/update.htm

The attachment hooks on the militia plate were of wire soldered to the brass. The attachment devices on your plate look pretty hefty even though the tongue hook is broken off. I will keep looking to i.d. it. I have never seen a dug militia plate with the wire or attachment device hooks on it as they quickly rusted away. I agree with BB, it's a plate of some sort. HH, Quindy.

 

[Hill Billy]

Re: Hill Billy Strikes Again!

It looks the same size but the back doesn't look anything like mine.
Thanks for your help Quindy.

 

[VOL1266-X]

Re: Hill Billy Strikes Again!

Congratulations HB (and your very able Guide and Research Specialist BB) as you have found a Shoulder Belt plate Circa 1814-30. I had to go to an out of print book in my relic library entitled "Excavated Artifacts from Battlefields and Campsites of the Civil War 1861-1865 Supplement 1" by Stanley S. Phillips to find it.
The back hooks on your plate looked cast into the brass as is explained in the verbage for plate 1 & 2 in the book (front and back of the plate) which I believe is the plate you dug. That's one that I had never seen before but I'm certainly not a buckle/plate expert. Dman found a shoulder plate from an old home a couple of years ago. That's the first that I had ever held in my hand.
That is a Very Rare Find and I will vote BANNER!!!! HH, Quindy.

 

[Dman]

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Congrats on the pre CW plate.
It should be on banner.
Dman

 

[Sniffy]

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Your on fire hillbilly! LEt that marathon torch RUN!

 

[Hill Billy]

Re: Hill Billy Strikes Again!

Congratulations HB (and your very able Guide and Research Specialist BB) as you have found a Shoulder Belt plate Circa 1814-30. I had to go to an out of print book in my relic library entitled "Excavated Artifacts from Battlefields and Campsites of the Civil War 1861-1865 Supplement 1" by Stanley S. Phillips to find it.
The back hooks on your plate looked cast into the brass as is explained in the verbage for plate 1 & 2 in the book (front and back of the plate) which I believe is the plate you dug. That's one that I had never seen before but I'm certainly not a buckle/plate expert. Dman found a shoulder plate from an old home a couple of years ago. That's the first that I had ever held in my hand.
That is a Very Rare Find and I will vote BANNER!!!! HH, Quindy.

Thanks for your research and help Quindy
I'm Flabergasted.

 

[Newt]

Re: Hill Billy Strikes Again! Pre Civil War Belt Plate

You had it and did'nt know it. Nice!
Newt

 

[Felinepeachy]

Re: Hill Billy Strikes Again! Pre Civil War Belt Plate

Wooooo Hooooooo!!! OUTSTANDING!!

 

[Bubba65]

Re: Hill Billy Strikes Again! Pre Civil War Belt Plate

Nice plate Hill Billy, Congrats on a great find!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Bubba65

 

[vayank54]

Re: Hill Billy Strikes Again! "Pre Civil War Belt Plate"

Congrats on the plate and on a great day of digging.

 

[BuckleBoy]

Re: Hill Billy Strikes Again! "Pre Civil War Belt Plate"

Sweet Jesus, nice find, HB! I didn't know that was as great of a find as it is!

We should hit that spot HARD tomorrow--and just deal with the tall grass. We didn't dig anything small there, so that tells me we were just clearing the overload hits out. I think the hunting will be better tomorrow. In fact, perhaps we should start there. I'd love to see a button come up from that time frame. A one-piece eagle would be nice. 8) Plus we still have two more sites to find on that massive farm.

You've done it, my friend. A plate was found and I wasn't the one to find it.

Congrats,


Buck

 

[FortBedfordbob]

Re: Hill Billy Strikes Again! "Pre Civil War Belt Plate"

Super Excellent Finds ! Do you have any idea what the thing is in the top of the button picture that kind of has a slot ( like a key hole ) in it ? Dug one of those at the Tavern that we've been doing. Man Congrats on some great digs

 

[Hill Billy]

Re: Hill Billy Strikes Again! "Pre Civil War Belt Plate"

Super Excellent Finds ! Do you have any idea what the thing is in the top of the button picture that kind of has a slot ( like a key hole ) in it ? Dug one of those at the Tavern that we've been doing. Man Congrats on some great digs

Here you go Bob, I found one recently too. Scroll down the post and you will see a picture of the bag that it goes to.
http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,309122.0.html