1808 Pattern Variant Military Shoulder Plate

[Hill Billy]

The plate has been id'd by Vol1266-x at post #30.
Thanks Quindy.



Got back out today with BBoy on the site I hit on Monday and the finds were still there. I found a bridal rosette, and a cloak pin at that site. We carried on to another site BBoy had researched and it was a sweet site. We found at least 20 flat buttons there, a few were pewter and a couple tombacs. BBoy found some buttons right away and we knew we were where we wanted to be. We started hitting it hard when I got a a signal that screamed LC. I told BBoy here comes a largie and he walked over to witness the unearthing. Sure enough, out pops this beautiful Matron Head. We kept at it for another 2 hours and it seemed like flat button after flat button.In the end I dug my first Jews Harp, and it was made of iron. All in all a great hunt for us and I'm sure BBoy will be adding to this post later.
Thanks for looking
Hill

 

[BuckleBoy]

Get cracken romeo.

Yeah, get kraken.

 

[VOL1266-X]

HB, your plate (which deserves the BANNER) is an important part of Kentucky military history. It could easily have been lost from a soldier's shoulder belt going home who fought in the War of 1812 especially since you and BB did not find evidence of a home site there. That find should have a cherished place in your great collection. HH, Quindy.

 

[Nisroc]

I just put my banner vote in HB. Again way to go my friend.
Nis

 

[Newt]

HB, your plate (which deserves the BANNER) is an important part of Kentucky military history. It could easily have been lost from a soldier's shoulder belt going home who fought in the War of 1812 especially since you and BB did not find evidence of a home site there. That find should have a cherished place in your great collection. HH, Quindy.

It does.
How many of those have we seen here?
Newt

 

[dano7]

Very nice finds........

 

[BuckleBoy]

HB, your plate (which deserves the BANNER) is an important part of Kentucky military history. It could easily have been lost from a soldier's shoulder belt going home who fought in the War of 1812 especially since you and BB did not find evidence of a home site there. That find should have a cherished place in your great collection. HH, Quindy.

It does.
How many of those have we seen here?
Newt

This is the first one ever posted on TreasureNet. I guess it doesn't have that Banner "feel" because it is unmarked.

 

[Iron Patch]

I thought I had replied to this, and definitely meant to! Banner worthy for sure! The problem is too few people seem to understand an early military plate is an early military plate! and this one would be a heck of a lot rarer to find than a US buckle! I'd say it's like a 1700s large cent vs indian head pennies.

 

[BuckleBoy]

I thought I had replied to this, and definitely meant to! Banner worthy for sure! The problem is too few people seem to understand an early military plate is an early military plate! and this one would be a heck of a lot rarer to find than a US buckle! I'd say it's like a 1700s large cent vs indian head pennies.

You're exactly right. Some of the best finds don't look like much, or take a while to ID. How many would've picked up the pieces of a broken old stoneware crock from a cellar hole in the woods and reassembled it? There were those who "knocked" the fact that the crock made the banner, but I was quite happy on the way to the bank to cash the check. It was enough to buy another detector.


-Buckles

 

[Iron Patch]

I thought I had replied to this, and definitely meant to! Banner worthy for sure! The problem is too few people seem to understand an early military plate is an early military plate! and this one would be a heck of a lot rarer to find than a US buckle! I'd say it's like a 1700s large cent vs indian head pennies.

You're exactly right. Some of the best finds don't look like much, or take a while to ID. How many would've picked up the pieces of a broken old stoneware crock from a cellar hole in the woods and reassembled it? There were those who "knocked" the fact that the crock made the banner, but I was quite happy on the way to the bank to cash the check. It was enough to buy another detector.


-Buckles

You should have the made the banner even if just for the effort! Don's tintype was much the same way. Maybe not a mind blowing find, but all added up it was pretty impressive.

Took me about 7 years to find a plain plate and it's something I thought there would be more of around here, but apparently not. Any day we find one of those is a big day!

 

[{Sentinel}]

Yes, I agree its a banner find. I felt that it was an early military plate and glad to see that's exactly what it is! CONGRATS buddy!

 

[BuckleBoy]

You should have the made the banner even if just for the effort! Don's tintype was much the same way. Maybe not a mind blowing find, but all added up it was pretty impressive.

Took me about 7 years to find a plain plate and it's something I thought there would be more of around here, but apparently not. Any day we find one of those is a big day!

Any time we find a plate, it is a big day. Especially one This old in This area. It's worth more than any plate I've dug--and I've dug my share!

 

[Iron Patch]

You should have the made the banner even if just for the effort! Don's tintype was much the same way. Maybe not a mind blowing find, but all added up it was pretty impressive.

Took me about 7 years to find a plain plate and it's something I thought there would be more of around here, but apparently not. Any day we find one of those is a big day!

Any time we find a plate, it is a big day. Especially one This old in This area. It's worth more than any plate I've dug--and I've dug my share!

I have no complaints about my count for early military buttons, but my plate count is only at two. The good news for my area is when you find one there's a very good chance it will be something special, the downside is they are extremely rare to dig! (my better of the two was actually found about 4 hours from here)

 

[BuckleBoy]

You should have the made the banner even if just for the effort! Don's tintype was much the same way. Maybe not a mind blowing find, but all added up it was pretty impressive.

Took me about 7 years to find a plain plate and it's something I thought there would be more of around here, but apparently not. Any day we find one of those is a big day!

Any time we find a plate, it is a big day. Especially one This old in This area. It's worth more than any plate I've dug--and I've dug my share!

I have no complaints about my count for early military buttons, but my plate count is only at two. The good news for my area is when you find one there's a very good chance it will be something special, the downside is they are extremely rare to dig! (my better of the two was actually found about 4 hours from here)

The opposite is true for here. I've averaged one per year, and some years three plates. But there aren't many good buttons here at all.

But this one, it's a special plate.

 

[{Sentinel}]

Again I got to say I agree with Quindy and Buck...this is a GREAT early variant buckle and deserves a spot on the

banner regardless if its marked or not....anyone that knows their history of the military and plates, knows that many of

our early federal plates WERE NOT marked on the fronts. That's because they were made to fulfill a function not to be

pretty! Its a terrific piece of history and definitely deserves to be up on that banner...more so than that plate that is on

there now that is definitely not period. Great find again Hillbilly!!!!

 

[BuckleBoy]

Its a terrific piece of history and definitely deserves to be up on that banner...more so than that plate that is on

there now that is definitely not period.

That's a good point! We currently have a REPRODUCTION plate on the banner.

 

[Hill Billy]

Again I got to say I agree with Quindy and Buck...this is a GREAT early variant buckle and deserves a spot on the

banner regardless if its marked or not....anyone that knows their history of the military and plates, knows that many of

our early federal plates WERE NOT marked on the fronts. That's because they were made to fulfill a function not to be

pretty! Its a terrific piece of history and definitely deserves to be up on that banner...more so than that plate that is on

there now that is definitely not period. Great find again Hillbilly!!!!

Thanks Sentinel, This is a rare find and I can't believe I found it. I had just said to BBoy I need to find a plate. I can't believe I haven't found one yet. He said ...you will one day. Never dreamed it would be soon there after, and an older variety.
Buck and Patch , Thanks for your backing on the banner find, but I don't think it had enough votes, nor the eye appeal.

Hill

 

[Iron Patch]

Again I got to say I agree with Quindy and Buck...this is a GREAT early variant buckle and deserves a spot on the

banner regardless if its marked or not....anyone that knows their history of the military and plates, knows that many of

our early federal plates WERE NOT marked on the fronts. That's because they were made to fulfill a function not to be

pretty! Its a terrific piece of history and definitely deserves to be up on that banner...more so than that plate that is on

there now that is definitely not period. Great find again Hillbilly!!!!

don't think it had enough votes, nor the eye appeal.

Hill

I know all about that!

 

[Hill Billy]

Again I got to say I agree with Quindy and Buck...this is a GREAT early variant buckle and deserves a spot on the

banner regardless if its marked or not....anyone that knows their history of the military and plates, knows that many of

our early federal plates WERE NOT marked on the fronts. That's because they were made to fulfill a function not to be

pretty! Its a terrific piece of history and definitely deserves to be up on that banner...more so than that plate that is on

there now that is definitely not period. Great find again Hillbilly!!!!

don't think it had enough votes, nor the eye appeal.

Hill

I know all about that!

I guess I need to find an earlier one now.

 

[Iron Patch]

Again I got to say I agree with Quindy and Buck...this is a GREAT early variant buckle and deserves a spot on the

banner regardless if its marked or not....anyone that knows their history of the military and plates, knows that many of

our early federal plates WERE NOT marked on the fronts. That's because they were made to fulfill a function not to be

pretty! Its a terrific piece of history and definitely deserves to be up on that banner...more so than that plate that is on

there now that is definitely not period. Great find again Hillbilly!!!!

don't think it had enough votes, nor the eye appeal.

Hill

I know all about that!

I guess I need to find an earlier one now.

Well I would hope a Rev plate would make the banner! Probably send you car shopping too! Now that would be a great week.

 

[TheRandyMan]

Beautiful plate..congrats...Im new so how do I vote the banner for it?