1808 Pattern Variant Military Shoulder Plate

[Hill Billy]

The plate has been id'd by Vol1266-x at post #30.
Thanks Quindy.



Got back out today with BBoy on the site I hit on Monday and the finds were still there. I found a bridal rosette, and a cloak pin at that site. We carried on to another site BBoy had researched and it was a sweet site. We found at least 20 flat buttons there, a few were pewter and a couple tombacs. BBoy found some buttons right away and we knew we were where we wanted to be. We started hitting it hard when I got a a signal that screamed LC. I told BBoy here comes a largie and he walked over to witness the unearthing. Sure enough, out pops this beautiful Matron Head. We kept at it for another 2 hours and it seemed like flat button after flat button.In the end I dug my first Jews Harp, and it was made of iron. All in all a great hunt for us and I'm sure BBoy will be adding to this post later.
Thanks for looking
Hill

 

[FortBedfordbob]

Re: Hill Billy Strikes Again! "Pre Civil War Belt Plate"

Super Excellent Finds ! Do you have any idea what the thing is in the top of the button picture that kind of has a slot ( like a key hole ) in it ? Dug one of those at the Tavern that we've been doing. Man Congrats on some great digs

Here you go Bob, I found one recently too. Scroll down the post and you will see a picture of the bag that it goes to.
http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,309122.0.html

Hey , Thanks a lot ! What a Great Hobby We Have,
HH
BB

 

[BuckleBoy]

Re: Hill Billy Strikes Again!

Buckles did you find a jewish harp yet dang HB is taken all good stuff.....

I got my jew's harp last year.



HB, I am nominating this one for the Banner. That plate is a great find!

 

[Kyle PA]

Re: Pre Civil War Shoulder Belt Plate found

I agree, this should be gracing the banner. It deserves it!

My vote is in, HB!

 

[VOL1266-X]

Re: Pre Civil War Shoulder Belt Plate found

HB, I found other pics of your plate in "American Military Belt Plates" by Michael J. O'Donnell and J. Duncan Campbell. It's a 1808 Pattern Variant and examples are illustrated on pages 59 & 60 of that reference book. The construction of the plate is described as "Cast brass with integral belt hooks. Crude brass washers peened onto studs". The tongue hook that was cast into the plate is broken off on the plate that you dug.

Congrats again Buddy!!! OK Jeff PA, it's the real deal as evidenced by two reference books. Put it on BANNER-It's Very Rare.

 

[MonkeyBoy]

Re: Pre Civil War Shoulder Belt Plate found

Nice plate!! It looked like a milita plate when you first posted it but I figured it would have been called out if it was.. reminds me of the 2 or 3 "brass plates" I have that I really want to call plates but the backs are just too smooth !!! Is that the rarest one you guys have dug down there??

Again nice!! Banner find!

MB

 

[Hill Billy]

Re: Pre Civil War Shoulder Belt Plate found

Nice plate!! It looked like a milita plate when you first posted it but I figured it would have been called out if it was.. reminds me of the 2 or 3 "brass plates" I have that I really want to call plates but the backs are just too smooth !!! Is that the rarest one you guys have dug down there??

Again nice!! Banner find!

MB

Thanks MB for the banner vote. As far as the rarest one found, this is my first.
BBoy has dug some CW plates but none as early as this one to my knowledge.

HB, I found other pics of your plate in "American Military Belt Plates" by Michael J. O'Donnell and J. Duncan Campbell. It's a 1808 Pattern Variant and examples are illustrated on pages 59 & 60 of that reference book. The construction of the plate is described as "Cast brass with integral belt hooks. Crude brass washers peened onto studs". The tongue hook that was cast into the plate is broken off on the plate that you dug.

Congrats again Buddy!!! OK Jeff PA, it's the real deal as evidenced by two reference books. Put it on BANNER-It's Very Rare.

Thanks for more research Quindy and your banner vote

I agree, this should be gracing the banner. It deserves it!

My vote is in, HB!

Thanks Colonial Kyle.

 

[Kyle PA]

Re: Pre Civil War Shoulder Belt Plate found

HB, you must update your title to something like: "1808 Pattern Variant Military Shoulder Plate".

 

[Kirk PA]

Re: Pre Civil War Shoulder Belt Plate found

I submitted my Banner vote.

Kirk

 

[Colonial Copper Zeus]

Re: Pre Civil War Shoulder Belt Plate found

You are just burning it up my man. Early 1800's shoulder plate is a fine addition to anyones collection. Great job
Chris

 

[Hill Billy]

Re: Pre Civil War Shoulder Belt Plate found

HB, you must update your title to something like: "1808 Pattern Variant Military Shoulder Plate".

Consider it done.

I submitted my Banner vote.

Kirk

Thanks Kirk, you the man!

You are just burning it up my man. Early 1800's shoulder plate is a fine addition to anyones collection. Great job
Chris

Hard to believe how my hot streak is going. it's going to look great in the case.

 

[Gonehunting]

what state are you finding those in? wtg. I really like the buttons.

 

[Hill Billy]

what state are you finding those in? wtg. I really like the buttons.

That would be Ky.

 

[Kirk PA]

what state are you finding those in? wtg. I really like the buttons.

That would be Ky.

Was it BB's research? This site seems to be 1790s. That is killer for your area.

Kirk

 

[Hill Billy]

what state are you finding those in? wtg. I really like the buttons.

That would be Ky.

Was it BB's research? This site seems to be 1790s. That is killer for your area.

Kirk

This was a site on on the maps he has but we had no coordinates for it.
We went on a blind mission looking for the site and I stumbled on the well.
Went back today and we both found a brass spoon each, that was it.

 

[umrgolf]

Congrats....knew it was a plate....just been trying to figure out which kind......it looked a bit like a clipped corner but wasn't "clipped" enough....it definitely is a early federal plate...>Great find

 

[nova treasure]

Excellent Finds and my banner vote is in for the Plate. It is a very rare find .

Bill

 

[romeo-1]

Really that's the best kind of find...the kind you didn't even know you had! Well done and BANNER!

 

[Newt]

what state are you finding those in? wtg. I really like the buttons.

That would be Ky.

Was it BB's research? This site seems to be 1790s. That is killer for your area.

Kirk

This was a site on on the maps he has but we had no coordinates for it.
We went on a blind mission looking for the site and I stumbled on the well.
Went back today and we both found a brass spoon each, that was it.

I'd hit it one more time, at least.
Newt

 

[nova treasure]

Re: Hill Billy Strikes Again!

Man H.B. you are really good at this. Maybe those goat horns are copper antennas.
Chris

That's for sure, He has a good eye for finding the sites. you can drop him out on a 1,000 acres and he is usually the first to bring up the finds. Research helps find a area but good instinct and ability is what will put you standing on the sites.

Great Job again, Nova Treasure

 

[Hill Billy]

Really that's the best kind of find...the kind you didn't even know you had! Well done and BANNER!

Your right, it is the best kind of find. I knew I had it , but didn't know what it was.
Get cracken romeo.