1824 General Lafayette Wax Seal Commemorating His Return to New York

[Kyle PA]

Kirk, Chris, and I went back to the same site that we hit last Sunday. I dug the 1788 Connecticut copper that was struck over a Nova Constellatio there. Chris dug a VA halfpenny, 1796 large cent, and a Coronet cent. Kirk dug the 1844 political medal there as well.

Here is Kirk pinpointing a signal in the iron patch.



I decided to snap some other pictures of the site. Here is a pic that I call "Looking out into the Pennsylvania frontier."



Here is another view of the surrounding land from where the home sat. This early settler sure had a beautiful view.



Once again, just like last Sunday, within the first 10 minutes of swinging, I got an iffy nickel reading. After I flipped the dirt out, it was still in the hole and reading in the high penny range. I was thrilled when I saw what it was: a 1754 King George II farthing. It is our second farthing this year as a group.





I also found this interesting wax seal. I can't make out what the letters say surrounding the bust of the man. If anyone knows who it is, I would greatly appreciate the needed information!







Here are my relics for the day.

 

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[Kyle PA]

I don't want to sound like a broken record, but I want to, once again, thank everyone for the kind replies and the banner votes. This is, no doubt, the best find of my career so far.

 

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[RELICDUDE07]

Cograts on the Banner!!!!you guys are true pros!Coins are nice but i always like the rare relics &this is a great 1 !.Keep up the good work

 

[Kyle PA]

http://books.google.com/books?id=cT...&resnum=3&ved=0CCUQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q&f=false


Here is a link that talks about Americans being able to purchase Lafayette souvenirs during his visit.

 

[Iron Patch]

http://books.google.com/books?id=cT...&resnum=3&ved=0CCUQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q&f=false


Here is a link that talks about Americans being able to purchase Lafayette souvenirs during his visit.

Yes, that's a great British find you have there.

 

[Kirk PA]

http://books.google.com/books?id=cT...&resnum=3&ved=0CCUQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q&f=false


Here is a link that talks about Americans being able to purchase Lafayette souvenirs during his visit.

Whoever lived in this dwelling was 100% in New York celebrating when he came into the harbor. I could bet you the farm on that one!

Kirk

 

[Colonial Copper Zeus]

http://books.google.com/books?id=cT...&resnum=3&ved=0CCUQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q&f=false


Here is a link that talks about Americans being able to purchase Lafayette souvenirs during his visit.

Whoever lived in this dwelling was 100% in New York celebrating when he came into the harbor. I could bet you the farm on that one!

Kirk

No doubt Kirk. And you know he was blowing his Bugle.
Chris

 

[Iron Patch]

http://books.google.com/books?id=cT...&resnum=3&ved=0CCUQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q&f=false


Here is a link that talks about Americans being able to purchase Lafayette souvenirs during his visit.

Whoever lived in this dwelling was 100% in New York celebrating when he came into the harbor. I could bet you the farm on that one!

Kirk

No doubt Kirk. And you know he was blowing his Bugle.
Chris

And playing with the large coppers in his pocket.

 

[bookfisher]

Congrats on making the banner. You deserve it!

 

[Colonial Copper Zeus]

http://books.google.com/books?id=cT...&resnum=3&ved=0CCUQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q&f=false


Here is a link that talks about Americans being able to purchase Lafayette souvenirs during his visit.

Whoever lived in this dwelling was 100% in New York celebrating when he came into the harbor. I could bet you the farm on that one!

Kirk

No doubt Kirk. And you know he was blowing his Bugle.
Chris

And playing with the large coppers in his pocket.

And smoking his copper pipe.

 

[Iron Patch]

This is, no doubt, the best find of my career so far.

Interesting. I like them both but would definitely put your last CT ahead of this. To me the numismatic history is better than the seal which is what I consider more of a trinket. I'm sure you won't like that word but I don't really have a better one at the moment. What we can both agree on is you're having a pretty good Fall so far! In a few years time I'll be interested to see if you still think it's better than the coin.

 

[Tnmountains]

How neat is that. This is a time in American history where Americans were learning to be Americans and beginning to create and have some history of their own. They were laying the foundations of patriotism.

 

[Iron Patch]

http://books.google.com/books?id=cT...&resnum=3&ved=0CCUQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q&f=false


Here is a link that talks about Americans being able to purchase Lafayette souvenirs during his visit.

Whoever lived in this dwelling was 100% in New York celebrating when he came into the harbor. I could bet you the farm on that one!

Kirk

No doubt Kirk. And you know he was blowing his Bugle.
Chris

And playing with the large coppers in his pocket.

And smoking his copper pipe.

Or putting out his candle.

 

[Kyle PA]

This is, no doubt, the best find of my career so far.

Interesting. I like them both but would definitely put your last CT ahead of this. To me the numismatic history is better than the seal which is what I consider more of a trinket. I'm sure you won't like that word but I don't really have a better one at the moment. What we can both agree on is you're having a pretty good Fall so far! In a few years time I'll be interested to see if you still think it's better than the coin.

IP, to me, the wax seal is a better find. The settler who drove his stakes into the ground here was, most likely, a Rev War vet. His patriotism is shown in this wax seal. I can just picture him in 1824, gray-haired yet still strong in appearance and speech, cheering for General Lafayette on his arrival, tooting his trumpet just like he did when we won the war many decades before. That alone is priceless!

 

[Colonial Copper Zeus]

This is, no doubt, the best find of my career so far.

Interesting. I like them both but would definitely put your last CT ahead of this. To me the numismatic history is better than the seal which is what I consider more of a trinket. I'm sure you won't like that word but I don't really have a better one at the moment. What we can both agree on is you're having a pretty good Fall so far! In a few years time I'll be interested to see if you still think it's better than the coin.

IP, to me, the wax seal is a better find. The settler who drove his stakes into the ground here was, most likely, a Rev War vet. His patriotism is shown in this wax seal. I can just picture him in 1824, gray-haired yet still strong in appearance and speech, cheering for General Lafayette on his arrival, tooting his trumpet just like he did when we won the war many decades before. That alone is priceless!

Well said my good nephew.
Unc

 

[Iron Patch]

This is, no doubt, the best find of my career so far.

Interesting. I like them both but would definitely put your last CT ahead of this. To me the numismatic history is better than the seal which is what I consider more of a trinket. I'm sure you won't like that word but I don't really have a better one at the moment. What we can both agree on is you're having a pretty good Fall so far! In a few years time I'll be interested to see if you still think it's better than the coin.

IP, to me, the wax seal is a better find. The settler who drove his stakes into the ground here was, most likely, a Rev War vet. His patriotism is shown in this wax seal. I can just picture him in 1824, gray-haired yet still strong in appearance and speech, cheering for General Lafayette on his arrival, tooting his trumpet just like he did when we won the war many decades before. That alone is priceless!

I completely understand how that thought process can put you over the edge, and that's where we're different because I tend to look at the item more for what it is. When Ironhorse posted his it kind of surprised me, but then kinda sorta rung a bell a little. I'm not sure what it meant to him at the time but I didn't give it the credit it deserved, and didn't really even think of it as being any different than any other wax seal. That might be because I used to drink at a rundown bar called the Lafayette and just thought of it as a very "general" term. General term, general seal, but now much more interesting having given it some thought.

http://www.ottawaplus.ca/ottawa/venues/chateau-lafayette

 

[Kyle PA]

After paying a $25 "quick evaluation" service fee to Early American History Auctions, Inc., I emailed the pictures of my wax seal to them. Dana Linett, who is most known for his appearances on The History Channel's Pawn Stars show, wrote back:

Hello Kyle,

Thank you for using our quick evaluation service.

I have not seen another example of this specific seal before.
It appears from your images to be authentic and correct to the period c. 1824 or so.

It is a special piece, though excavated.
I would think that as is, it should have a collector value of about $500 in today's market to the right collector.

I think it is a neat item. Congratulations on the wonderful find.

Best regards,
Dana Linett, President
Early American

 

[Swingit]

Amazing!!

 

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[birdman]

Extremely historical find ! WOW!!!!!

 

[BuckleBoy]

What a find!!!!

Lady Luck is trying to tell you to give up on those lousy coppers and hunt for the REAL relics!

Well done! BIG congrats to KKC!!!


-Buck