1851 US Three-Cent Piece, 3-Canadian LC?s, 1837 One Penny Token

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The weather was great this past weekend and not too hot, so perfect detecting weather. :icon_sunny: The first site I detected on Saturday afternoon for 3hrs, I found a 1913 LC, the A.W. Faber Circular Eraser and the small brass buckle. On Sunday morning, I headed back to the site where I found the complete pewter spoon a few weeks ago. My first find was a 1919 LC, followed by an 1859 LC, then an 1837 Lower Canada One Penny. I then got an interesting loud 90 signal on the Deus and out popped my first 1851 US Trime or Three-Cent Piece. This coin is so thin, I was surprised the machine could actually hear it. The last site I went to was a site the Arkies had just dug and the farmer has just planted soybeans in, it was here that I found the Castleford Rugby League Pin.

I should also thank a friend of mine who detects using the same GM 2 Power Program I do, his suggestion was to try using it at 7.7kHz, I've always been at 12kHz. Well, all I can say is the coppers and silver literally scream at you through these old iron infested sites, what a difference the lower kHz made! :notworthy:

US Three-Cent Piece
The US Three-Cent coin was proposed in 1851 both as a result of the decrease in postage rates from five cents to three and to answer the need for a small-denomination, easy-to-handle coin. The three-cent silver featured a shield on a six-sided star on the obverse and the Roman numeral III on the reverse. The coin was initially composed of 75% silver and 25% copper to ensure that the coin would be considered real currency yet not worth melting down for the silver. The coins were physically the lightest-weight coins ever minted by the United States, weighing only 0.8 grams and with a diameter smaller than a modern dime and only slightly greater than the smallest gold dollars. The silver coins were known as "fishscales". The term "trimes" is often used today for these coins and was first used by the director of the United States Mint (James Ross Snowden) at the time of their production. Starting in 1854, the three-cent silver had its silver metal content raised to 90% to encourage circulation. At the same time, its weight was reduced to 0.75 grams by reducing thickness. The coin went through a design change at the time such that two lines were now used to border the star on the obverse and an olive sprig was added above and a bundle of arrows below the Roman numeral III on the reverse.

A.W. Faber Company USA - Circular Eraser
When the carpenter Kaspar Faber (1730-1784) started his own small pencil factory in Stein outside of Nuremberg in 1761, he laid the foundation for what is now the Faber-Castell company. The business was named "A.W. Faber" after his son Anton Wilhelm Faber (1758-1819) in the second generation. After Kaspar's death, his son Anton Wilhelm took over the business that had already grown to a respectable size. In 1870, the name A.W. Faber was officially entered in the United States Register of Companies, as the fifth name in the first ledger. Since the four companies ahead of it no longer exist, A.W. Faber is the oldest brand name in the USA. Until 1898, the company was owned by the Faber family and was known as A.W. Faber. Then Ottilie von Faber, the heir to the business, married Count Alexander zu Castell-Rdenhausen. But her grandfather Lothar von Faber had stipulated in his will that the name Faber should remain in the company for all time. And so, they changed their surname to Faber-Castell. For Faber-Castell the year 2011 was marked by an extraordinary event - the company's 250th birthday. Faber-Castell is thus one of the oldest industrial companies in the world and the oldest registered brand in the United States.

Castleford Rugby League Pin Castleford West Yorkshire, England
The Castleford Tigers joined the English Rugby League in 1926 having previously been a successful junior club and since 1927 has always played home games at the current stadium on Wheldon Road which has been known as The Mend-A-Hose Jungle since 2014. The Tigers have grown into one of the most famous Rugby League Clubs in the United Kingdom and has consistently produced players who have achieved worldwide status in the game of Rugby League while playing in the famous black and amber colours. 32 players have become Great Britain Internationals and 29 have played for England, plus numerous other representing county and other international countries.

Thanks very much for looking,
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Elvis

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Awesome finds!!! Congrats!!
 

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Great finds! Those trimes are a tough find in the States, so finding one in Canada is even more remarkable. I was lucky enough to find a trime last year myself, but don't expect to find another any time soon. Congrats!
 

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Great finds,especially that Trime. I had an other one this spring and it always surprises me just how clear of the sound it gives. I might try the 7khz as well, always hunted on 18khz. Congrats Dave and good luck this summer!

P.S. You could get a plastic case for your remote or in a few years you won't be able to see much on the screen due to the scratches. The dust from the fields is very rough on the plastic. I regret not getting it the first few years I used the machine.
 
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Awesome Hunt!!! Nice write Up!!! Congrats!!!
 
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Awesome finds!!! Congrats!!
Thanks for your post Elvis.
Dave



Fantastic finds!!! Love that buckle!!!
Thanks for the comment FF. :thumbsup:
Yes, this buckle is one of the most decorative small buckles I've ever found.
Best of luck to you in FLA,
Dave



Great finds! Those trimes are a tough find in the States, so finding one in Canada is even more remarkable. I was lucky enough to find a trime last year myself, but don't expect to find another any time soon. Congrats!
Thanks for your post Steve. :wave:
I find a few IH's each year in Ontario, but finding an early US silver is a special find up here in the north.
Funny, because I've only ever dug one US LC and this is a coin that I'd love to find more often.
Best of luck to you this year Steve,
Dave


Great finds,especially that Trime. I had an other one this spring and it always surprises me just how clear of the sound it gives. I might try the 7khz as well, always hunted on 18khz. Congrats Dave and good luck this summer!

P.S. You could get a plastic case for your remote or in a few years you won't be able to see much on the screen due to the scratches. The dust from the fields is very rough on the plastic. I regret not getting it the first few years I used the machine.
Thanks for your post and suggestion Anton. I actually thought this was an aluminum can pop top when I first saw it.
Do you remember pop cans in the 70s, where you had to push the little button on the top to release the pressure before you pushed the larger button. :laughing7:

I did buy a waterproof protector case for the controller when I got the Deus in 2016, but the plastic cover made it difficult to see the face.
I carry a light facecloth in my back pocket on my hunts, mainly to wipe the sweat from my eyes and ears, but also to wipe the controller when it gets dirt on it.

Hope you're having a great year so far,
Dave



Awesome Hunt!!! Nice write Up!!! Congrats!!!
Thanks very much for your post and support Randy. :thumbsup:
 

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Nice hunt, Dave! Is that one of those radio wire insulators? Or house electric? Congrats on the old coinage.
 

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That's a very well done, informative post Antiquarian! Congrats to you on a great collection of finds. Also glad to hear you had yourself some good weather. It rained buckets the entire holiday weekend here in New England. Cheers!
 

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Well that beat the hell outta my weekend of junk! The weather was great. I?d be happy with that Friday rain every week to soften up the ground.

Great finds Dave.
 

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Awesome Saves!!! Love the stories
 

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Great stuff ! Outstanding research/ write up as usual
Keep em coming ! Those trimes are a tough find here gotta be near impossible up there !
 

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I love the designs on the old Canadian copper coins and tokens. They also seem to clean up much better than our US counterparts. Finding the Trime is an awesome bonus. Congrats on your finds!
 

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Nice hunt Dave. Lot's of keepers and a trime to top it off. I have only ever found one, and it was badly worn.
 
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Nice hunt, Dave! Is that one of those radio wire insulators? Or house electric? Congrats on the old coinage.
Good morning WD :wave:
I'm thinking it's just your standard early porcelain house wire insulator, I find these occasionally here.
They're not exactly collectible, but I tend to bring anything home I find in the field that's interesting. :laughing7:
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That's a very well done, informative post Antiquarian! Congrats to you on a great collection of finds. Also glad to hear you had yourself some good weather. It rained buckets the entire holiday weekend here in New England. Cheers!
Thanks for your post SM, I heard about that weather system moving through the east coast this weekend, I think they even received some light snow in Nova Scotia. I like to research the more historically interesting finds like the circular eraser, I never new anything about this very old company. I figure that if I'm interested in the history, then maybe the Tnet members are as well.
Dave


Well that beat the hell outta my weekend of junk! The weather was great. I'd be happy with that Friday rain every week to soften up the ground.

Great finds Dave.
I hear you about the weather lately Dallas, every time I step out my front door I swear I can hear our lawn saying "WATER ME, please!" :laughing7:
Best of luck to you,
Dave


Awesome Saves!!! Love the stories
Thank you for the post Sir. :icon_salut:
Keep cool in NC,
Dave


Excellent finds - congrats !
Thanks very much E-Trac.


Great stuff ! Outstanding research/ write up as usual
Keep em coming ! Those trimes are a tough find here gotta be near impossible up there !
Thanks for your post Arg :thumbsup: it was a nice surprise to find this early US silver here.
I appreciate your support, hope you're having a good year. - Dave



I love the designs on the old Canadian copper coins and tokens. They also seem to clean up much better than our US counterparts. Finding the Trime is an awesome bonus. Congrats on your finds!
Thanks very much for your post pa-nc, the modified program I'm now using on the Deus really makes these copper coins sound 'very large' through the 'carpet of iron'. :o
As you know, some coins/metals clean up better then others, the secret is to not to over clean the surface. I use a slow turning (1500rpm) brass wire wheel to remove the surface damage from the face of the metal without affecting the verdigris. Once the surface is open to the air, I then seal it with a Conservator's Wax, over the next few months the color of the metal surface will naturally darken down.


Nice hunt Dave. Lot's of keepers and a trime to top it off. I have only ever found one, and it was badly worn.
Thank you Steve. :icon_thumright:
This is a site the Arkies worked on and off for a few years, all finds came from the top 18" of soil they removed with a 2ton excavator to get down to the layer of habitation.
I wish the Trime was in better shape, but at least I found it prior to the site being lost to residential development.
Hope you're having a good year buddy,
Dave
 

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Nice work dave...some sweet coins and kind dirt up there. Congrats on another great hunt !!
 
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Nice work dave...some sweet coins and kind dirt up there. Congrats on another great hunt !!
Thanks Bart, it's gratifying to be able to save what the arkies either missed or simply couldn't be bothered to recover. :thumbsup:
Keep cool in FLA brother,
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