✅ SOLVED $2.99 at Goodwill-Be jealous!

[TheTh3rd]

 

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[Bigcypresshunter]

I searched and searched and couldnt find the other link. When I found 2 different titles, I assumed they were the same two. My bad.

I guess you looked for a manufacturers mark?: My guess it was a sticker that fell off. Myself I would sure like to find more information on these wooden machines. I would sure like to know who made them and where. Generally speaking an online listing, whether it be eBay, Etsy or Catawiki is not the best authority on identification.

 

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There appears to be more of these floating around. Here is one from images sold on eBay listed as vintage.. But so far Im not able to pull up the old eBay listing.






The now defunct Knock on Wood Corp registered in 1974 made 1cent gumball dispensers in the 70s for home decor, with white silk screened lettering on the glass but I havent found an exact match.

 

[creskol]

Here are some similar ones .. not exact ...but similar: VINTAGE HANDCRAFTED WOOD AND GLASS GUMBALL DISPENSER - Ad#: 867910 - Addoway
https://www.etsy.com/listing/400252...earch_query=candy dispenser&ref=sr_gallery_31

 

[ARC]

I'm not sure the way the word Candy is written looks all that old Victorian style to me and looks more of a mod. late 60s early 70s style. I would expect it to be acid etched instead of a decal applied also. May not be all that old?

My first thoughts as well.

I held back my comments. :P

 

[ARC]

IMO... the "aged" look stems from the "hands on play" of use.

My guess from first sight set this piece IMO in the 70's.

 

[diggummup]

I just wonder why this thread has almost 500 views and no1 seemed to have a problem with it.

Everyone has been super helpful! ..... Other than one ole' grumpy fart

Plus, I originally posted it in "Todays Finds" and then it was moved to "What Is It"

If I were you I would contact a moderator������

Whether you originally posted it in Today's Finds or not, you've been here long enough that you should know we have a "Thrift Store" forum page. That's where we post to brag about our thrift store finds. Even if they do turn out to be 1970's vintage versus 1900's antique.

 

[kcm]

tsk, tsk, tsk....

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Here are some similar ones .. not exact ...but similar: VINTAGE HANDCRAFTED WOOD AND GLASS GUMBALL DISPENSER - Ad#: 867910 - Addoway
https://www.etsy.com/listing/400252...earch_query=candy dispenser&ref=sr_gallery_31

Great work Creskol. Thats close enough to put doubt on the ID. I highly suspected these were not antique. At first glance, I would have passed on these at the Goodwill but hey 99 cents is worth the gamble.


The reasons I suspect 70s vintage::

1-the lettering style is not Victorian or Edwardian
2-the soda pop bottle silk screen lettering
3-the cheap hinges with tiny tacks. Nice wood but the functioning parts of this item are poorly designed and would not hold up under years of everyday use. Its a home decor item, not antique. But 99c is still a good deal.




EDIT. correction $2.99

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Do they really eat this stuff up in Germany?

 

[kcm]

I could easily be wrong, but seems I remember seeing plans for just such a gumball dispenser project long, long ago. Keep racking my brain trying to remember where I saw it. I know from the 80's, and I remember you could choose to purchase the glass with the writing. I just can't place the source.

There was no place to put a coin, as this was a home woodworking project. I think "80's" would fall under "Vintage", wouldn't it?

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Yes there are several wood making project designs for a gumball dispenser. Popular Mechanics may have had one.


The antiques from this era, that I have seen, had a place for a coin and that usually involves some metal parts.

 

[ARC]

I could easily be wrong, but seems I remember seeing plans for just such a gumball dispenser project long, long ago. Keep racking my brain trying to remember where I saw it. I know from the 80's, and I remember you could choose to purchase the glass with the writing. I just can't place the source.

There was no place to put a coin, as this was a home woodworking project. I think "80's" would fall under "Vintage", wouldn't it?

Vintage is 20 years or older...
Antique is 100 years.

Unless its a car.

Trivia...

Just a tidbit of info... if anyone cares.

Technically... according to laws... To sell something as "vintage" or "antique" and the item in question is in fact not "vintage" (age of 20 years or older) OR antique (100 or more).
IS...
Considered fraud.

heh

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Vintage is 20 years or older...
Antique is 100 years.

Unless its a car.

Trivia...

Just a tidbit of info... if anyone cares.

Technically... according to laws... To sell something as "vintage" or "antique" and the item in question is in fact not "vintage" (age of 20 years or older) OR antique (100 or more).
IS...
Considered fraud.

heh

Yes it is fraud. And the buyers of this vintage item from the German site may be reading this. We are kinda like Snopes. We set the record straight at TN. Never be afraid to correct an ID if you think something doesnt fit.

 

[kcm]

Yes it is fraud. And the buyers of this vintage item from the German site may be reading this. We are kinda like Snopes. We set the record straight at TN. Never be afraid to correct an ID if you think something doesnt fit.

Is Catawiki a German site? Have never heard of it before. Just wanting to make sure I understand. ...Don't know WHY I need to understand...just want to, I guess.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Whether you originally posted it in Today's Finds or not, you've been here long enough that you should know we have a "Thrift Store" forum page. That's where we post to brag about our thrift store finds. Even if they do turn our to be 1970's vintage versus 1900's antique. And yes you are a smart ass.

I think it should stay here Digg in the What Is It archives for proper identification of an antique or vintage item..

EDIT: Also the ID is in serious doubt and it really hasnt been proven either way.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Is Catawiki a German site? Have never heard of it before. Just wanting to make sure I understand. ...Don't know WHY I need to understand...just want to, I guess.

I never used it but its advertised as Europe's fastest growing online auction house. I think its $50 and up. At least one of the sellers was German, the other from Nederlands. We are reading the original listings translated into English. One copied the others listing, assuming it was correct. I dont know if it was done on purpose. I would think its fraud whether you were aware of it or not. Like I said you cannot identify an antique from an online listing like eBay, Etsy or Catawiki. Its a good starting place but should not be accepted as fact.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Looking back, I think both sellers were from the Nederlands but I think I was reading the listing title in German. Someone said Houton was a German word for wooden. . Whatever it doesnt matter.


Is this German? http://auction.catawiki.com/kavels/4319545-houten-gumball-machine-eerste-kwartaal-20e-eeuw


I no longer sell in Europe because the item often does not arrive.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Im curious. Are the corners jointed or dovetailed?

 

[kcm]

It's definitely wood. There's no doubt!

As for construction (and I'm speaking of the Catawiki model), it seems rather cheaply made. 100 years ago and more, people took GREAT pride in their craftsmanship. It was easy to, as all work - measuring, sawing, rabbeting, dovetailing, etc - was done entirely by hand. Good craftsmanship was expected, even in small pieces like this.

Now let me throw another monkey wrench into the mix. The unit in the OP has glass with lettering that comes off like silk-screen. Silk-screen printing has been around for hundreds of years, and goes back in this country into the early 1900's. So is the glass original, or was the glass replaced by a replica when the screws were replaced? I would venture to say original.

As for the screws, I may need to retract my initial thoughts. In trying to save on my data allotment (I use up SO MUCH data on Tnet....go figure! ), I see now what folks were saying about those little screws. It would be better of you took one screw out, took it to a flea market and tried to find similar, but older brass screws, even if you have to salvage them from some other little trinket. I don't think you can "morally" sell the piece as antique unless you can get it authenticated somehow, and I think that would more than destroy any profits. However, it can be advertised as Vintage without problem.

By the way, when you find replacement screws, make sure they're round head, slotted screws. ...Silly me - was looking at the small pic and trying to figure out how someone put such huge screws into the piece....when it was the whole hinges I was seeing!

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

I removed one of my posts about quality woodworking. Yea it definitely looks like real wood. I never really doubted that. I was referring to the corner joints. The box found by creskol (first pictured) is cheaply made but the OPs is a little better at least it has mitred corners, unless its laminated trim on top. The second pic from Catawiki. Its hard for me to tell with it not in my hand. But these 2 dispensers are quite different.


I believe the original hinges were just tacked on and were never meant to stand up to everyday use on the OPs dispenser..