4 Hammered Coins

JimDon · Nov 1, 2013

I took a trip to England to hunt with ChicagoRon and had an incredible time. I pulled 4 hammered silvers, 4 milled silver and two rare buttons. One is a 13th Light Dragoons button and the other is Royal Corp of Colchester Volunteers. I also got buckets full of buttons and a bag of greenies which was mostly 1600-1700 coppers. Not to mention all kids of relics back to Roman times.

Here is a video of the trip:

CRUSADER · Nov 2, 2013

Immediately my eyes were drawn to the top right hammered. Its a pretty Rare Durham mint under under Bishop Shirwood!

Need the other side to be sure but here is a similar example:
Record ID: PUBLIC-2AE966 - MEDIEVAL coin - Database

The top left York mint is of some interest as its double stuck, if you look at the 'R' in EBO'R'ACI it looks more like an 'S' & the bottom right of the coin shows the shadow of the double strike.

The bottom 2 are pretty common, I bet someone once that their first ever hammered would be a Lizzy Halfgroat & it was. They were produced in vast numbers & is my most common hammered find. The other looks to be a Henry III cut halfpenny (was a voided longcross penny).

The early Militia & early 19th C buttons are hard to get & are a nice addition to the collection.

Msbeepbeep · Nov 2, 2013

Nice! It must be really great finding coins and items that old, you just wish it could talk!

JimDon · Nov 2, 2013

Thank you Crusader for your wealth of information. You are a real asset to the hobby. I was thrilled to find a hammered but to find 4 was even better. And to know that a couple are harder to find is even better. Here are better pix of the finds.

Silver Searcher · Nov 2, 2013

Nice cut half Irish :icon_thumleft:

in 14 years of detecting and hundreds of hammered, I have yet to have any Irish hammered :dontknow:

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JimDon · Nov 2, 2013

SilverSearcher...WOW! That puts it in perspective. I am amazed. My once in a lifetime hunt is turning out to be just that for sure! In addition, according to some sources the 13th Lt Dragoon button is one of only 4 ever dug and is not documented outside of Colchester. The Colchester Volunteer button I have been told is also extremely rare. I guess my ancient ancestors from the area were looking out for me.

Silver Searcher · Nov 2, 2013

JimDon said:
SilverSearcher...WOW! That puts it in perspective. I am amazed. My once in a lifetime hunt is turning out to be just that for sure! In addition, according to some sources the 13th Lt Dragoon button is one of only 4 ever dug and is not documented outside of Colchester. The Colchester Volunteer button I have been told is also extremely rare. I guess my ancient ancestors from the area were looking out for me.

The two hammerds York and Durham Mint are of interest to me, were both ID... as I live in between York and Durham.

Dug up a bit more info on the buttons...

13th LT Dragoons... second pattern...1783-c1820..

LOYAL COLCHESTER VOLUNTEERS around shield and cross, First raised in 1797 and stood down in 1801. Re-raised in 1803 as a much larger affair, they opted to become Local Militia and became the 3rd Essex LM in 1809...c1797-1809

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JimDon · Nov 2, 2013

All of the items are still in the UK being reviewed for export license. I hope to get them back in a couple of months. Once I do I will report what they are. Thanks again.

JimDon · Nov 2, 2013

Here are some of the other finds.

Jeff H · Nov 2, 2013

That's awesome Jim. Great finds. Great experience!

CRUSADER · Nov 2, 2013

JimDon said:
SilverSearcher...WOW! That puts it in perspective. I am amazed. My once in a lifetime hunt is turning out to be just that for sure! In addition, according to some sources the 13th Lt Dragoon button is one of only 4 ever dug and is not documented outside of Colchester. The Colchester Volunteer button I have been told is also extremely rare. I guess my ancient ancestors from the area were looking out for me.

yeap now I see the reverse of the Irish cut half, its pretty unusual as well, I will get my book out later & see if I can ID it.

Silver Searcher · Nov 2, 2013

The York Mint Hammered is I believe a HenryV1 first reign, 1422-146. Civitas Eboraci. Rossette Mascle issue 1430-31 York Mint.

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CRUSADER · Nov 2, 2013

CRUSADER said:
yeap now I see the reverse of the Irish cut half, its pretty unusual as well, I will get my book out later & see if I can ID it.

Just checked the book & its a Henry III (like I first thought) but never guessed it was Irish!

Zodiacdiverdave · Nov 2, 2013

You have done well Jim, I would love to make it over there for some detecting, Mudlarking and diving. It's on the bucket list for sure.
Congrats and I am glad you didn't come back with only pictures.
ZDD

CRUSADER · Nov 2, 2013

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''In addition, according to some sources the 13th Lt Dragoon button is one of only 4 ever dug and is not documented outside of Colchester.''

Just realised I've got a 13 LD but not as nice as yours. No where near Colchester. :thumbsup:

Check your sources carefully, lots of made up assumptions by those that don't know better.(PS. there is more than 4)

These 2 were near Maidstone:
http://www.ukdfd.co.uk/ukdfddata/showrecords.php?product=10044&cat=all
http://www.ukdfd.co.uk/ukdfddata/showrecords.php?product=19105&cat=all

Silver Searcher · Nov 2, 2013

CRUSADER said:
Quote:
''In addition, according to some sources the 13th Lt Dragoon button is one of only 4 ever dug and is not documented outside of Colchester.''

Just realised I've got a 13 LD but not as nice as yours. No where near Colchester. Check your sources carefully, lots of made up assumptions by those that don't know better.

Your hardly a million miles away from Colchester, it wouldn't have had to travel far.

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