4 King George coppers

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Went back to our spot for the 4th time. Went over the same areas again and still finding copper half cents! It's amazeing what is missed over and over again. Total take of items worth mentioning is 4 King George half cents dating from 1720 to 1738 and one unkown date which is very worn, and 3 {spanish? } buttons { 2 of which not shown, they are soaking in olive oil}. If anyone can identify the marking on the button feel free to chime in. I've got three of these now and I'd like to find out what the marking means. Now that the ground around here has frozen, I need to find a super-ground thawing heater that I could attach to my coil.....
 

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My buddy ended up cleaning one of his with muriatic acid and a wire brush :o :o. Third copper down. Yep, the one that looks like it's been soaked in acid and wire brushed.
 

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lisfisher said:
My buddy ended up cleaning one of his with muriatic acid and a wire brush :o :o. Third copper down. Yep, the one that looks like it's been soaked in acid and wire brushed.
Great finds for sure! Pity that people clean the coins too much, even bad patina is better than bare copper (at least that's my opinion!)
 

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Only a small thing, but they are Half Pennies (not cents). The bottom 'dump' issue is a nice find, even I only get a few of those :thumbsup:
 

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The "dump" issue?? What's that?
 

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Good stuff... and stop that boy before he "cleans" something good!

The worn copper I find interesting, too bad it's so bad. Not real sure what that could be.
 

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Nice going on 4 coppers, the second one needs a little work to ID it, IP is correct it is interesting in what little lettering and design can be seen.

Just so there is no confusion on Dump issues:

The first halfpennies that were issued in 1717 & 1718 are
often referred to as the "dump" issue, on account of them
being smaller and thicker than the later issues of 1719-1724

1717-1718 Copper, 10 grams, 26mm Diameter.
1719-1724 Copper, 10 grams, 27mm Diameter

Farthings for the same years followed suit, the 1717-1718 Farthings were smaller than the 1719-1724 ones.

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The one on the very bottom is a 1720. Nice and ledgible on the reverse.
 

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Well done!

I would advise against the olive oil soak on buttons--no matter whether they are one, or two-piece. If they are two-piece, the oil could disintegrate them--and either way, the oil will leak out of them all over everything for years and years.

If they are one piece and brass, then peroxide method will not be as effective.



You should also consider using the Peroxide method on the copper coins, too--the results will be far greater than those visible in your post. And it looks like, in your area, the ground action is kind enough to have some great results with peroxide.


P.S.--I'd love to see photos of the other items you guys are finding there, too.


Best Wishes,


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Other item's we've found { although a couple years ago } are a couple of colonial buckles. Also found a large shackle of some sort. All 4 coppers came from the same 20 to 25 foot radius. It's driving us crazy as to what was there, who used the trail, etc. It is a wide trail with two old foundations off the trail a few yards. One site still has the original chimney but it is not that old, as the firebox was made with firebrick, and also stiles bricks as fillers. Could be up to 100 yrs old or so. Other foundation is just a hole in the ground with rock walls around it. Approx 5 foot deep and 10'x 12' inside to inside dimensions. Other than that, we have no idea why these coins were dropped there. The last copper I found { saturday } came from inside the dirt bank on the extreme left side of the trail. Two more were on the trail just a few feet away. I can't figure out why one would be inside the dirt bank on the side.
 

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Congrats on some GREAT coppers. For most of us mere mortals, it would take years to get 4 KG coppers!

I can't wait to see more pics of the rest of your finds!
 

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Don in SJ said:
Nice going on 4 coppers, the second one needs a little work to ID it, IP is correct it is interesting in what little lettering and design can be seen.

Just so there is no confusion on Dump issues:

The first halfpennies that were issued in 1717 & 1718 are
often referred to as the "dump" issue, on account of them
being smaller and thicker than the later issues of 1719-1724

1717-1718 Copper, 10 grams, 26mm Diameter.
1719-1724 Copper, 10 grams, 27mm Diameter

Farthings for the same years followed suit, the 1717-1718 Farthings were smaller than the 1719-1724 ones.

Don

Agreed the dump issue is from 1717 - 1718 but also includes 1719 (of which there are 2 varieties) these are rarer than the 1719 second issue but they are still 'dump'. So 1717-1719.

Still if its a clear 1720 then its outside of this range, so I retract my statement.

Plus no copper 1718 for farthings
 

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