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doesn't this belong somewhere else?
You like Marxian socialism don't ya; com on now admit your true colors! know you can do it if you choose too- I admit my foundation is the Bible, NOT religion but the Bible!Piercesdad said:doesn't this belong somewhere else?
Although I agree with your saying the Government should stop giving money to low income families for the most part, there are exceptions to every rule. There are a small percentage of those who are truly needy through no fault of their own. The same applies to high income families being described as "motivated", I know several lazy azz rich people that never worked a day in their life because everything has been handed to them on a silver platter, they made their money the easy way, they inherited it.gordon r said:The problem with this country is that the government takes from the high income families (The Motivated) and gives to the low income families (The Unmotivated). Whenever you here the term rich or high income just replace it with motivated. It works all the time. I think it would be easier to be a "Loyal American" If the government did not give my money away to the unmotivated.
Gordon
obediah said:That my friend is ....Agenda 21 in which all human activity is to be micromanaged and regulated...
The UN and it's agenda in toto is luciferian; it is not hard at all to find satanism in it and many of the high profile individuals that support it from Oprah to both Bush's, & Clinton's, to Microsoft's founder.Marc said:obediah said:That my friend is ....Agenda 21 in which all human activity is to be micromanaged and regulated...
Well, I certainly think it make sense to give birth control to those who can not afford it.
I plead guilty.
obediah said:Now that we have thrown off the US Constitution & it's foundation the word of God our leaders and many in positions of authority are doing things most of US would find reprehensible; America is responsible for the soft kill deaths of millions world wide and within US too, they are testing out new theories and drugs- agendas on large population groups both in food aditives and drug concoctions.
Oh you prefer what we have today? And if you knew your history the slave issue was very divisive , it was a compromise that allowed US to be a nation on this issue but it was slowly outlawed, first the importing of any more slaves then after Civil Wars more as more and more realized slavery is wrong, unConstitutional and unBiblical too Blacks became full citizens; unfortunately it took the communists (MLK Jr) to get involved to make many see the light.jim4silver said:obediah said:Now that we have thrown off the US Constitution & it's foundation the word of God our leaders and many in positions of authority are doing things most of US would find reprehensible; America is responsible for the soft kill deaths of millions world wide and within US too, they are testing out new theories and drugs- agendas on large population groups both in food aditives and drug concoctions.
I guess back in the "good ole' days" when our the leaders followed the Constitution and believed in God and our country allowed for the enslavement of blacks and wiped out virtually the entire race of Native Americans and stole their land we as a country were a much better people. Maybe such things are allowed in the Bible and it is A-OK?
Ah, to long for such good ole' days.
Jim
obediah said:Oh you prefer what we have today? And if you knew your history the slave issue was very divisive , it was a compromise that allowed US to be a nation on this issue but it was slowly outlawed, first the importing of any more slaves then after Civil Wars more as more and more realized slavery is wrong, unConstitutional and unBiblical too Blacks became full citizens; unfortunately it took the communists (MLK Jr) to get involved to make many see the light.jim4silver said:obediah said:Now that we have thrown off the US Constitution & it's foundation the word of God our leaders and many in positions of authority are doing things most of US would find reprehensible; America is responsible for the soft kill deaths of millions world wide and within US too, they are testing out new theories and drugs- agendas on large population groups both in food aditives and drug concoctions.
I guess back in the "good ole' days" when our the leaders followed the Constitution and believed in God and our country allowed for the enslavement of blacks and wiped out virtually the entire race of Native Americans and stole their land we as a country were a much better people. Maybe such things are allowed in the Bible and it is A-OK?
Ah, to long for such good ole' days.
Jim
The Indians did not live civilized nor did they own property. Though do acknowledge there were corrupt men in business and power who sought to exterminate indians- of course they were not Christians.
As for the Bible it is neither pro or con in regard to slavery, but slaves were NOT to be mistreated. Most of us today have sold ourselves into servitude and do not even realize it.
Oh and I never said they were the good ol days either, but will say people were wiser and could discern far better than they can today; even blacks had many wise men George Washington Carver is one that astonishes me the strength of both his character and faith in God; did you know he testified of God before Congress (1922 believe)?
If you look at history of mankind it is full of slaughters & injustices, the ones in America pale compared to most of rest of world; hay just look at Aztecs who captured peoples- tribes to slaughter B4 their gods by the 10's of thousands on their sacrificial days.
No did NOT defend what they did, and the Indians were horrible bucthers of innocents- they took no prisoners. You remind me of those who defend the "palestinians" in gaza who elected the Hamas gov (hamas is arabic for "violence"), who cry to the world that they are being mistreated by Israel with no mention of the above or the thousands of rockets launched from gaza into Israel, just as they are not innocent neither were the indians. And they were uncivilized and did not own property- they moved seasonally or when they hunted the game out of an area they moved. They also slaughtered themselves brutally too; but then look at US in Iraq & the stans, we do not want to hear the truth of what we are actually doing- we are the barbarians today slaughtering literally millions of innocents who get in the way of our Globalist agenda.jim4silver said:obediah said:Oh you prefer what we have today? And if you knew your history the slave issue was very divisive , it was a compromise that allowed US to be a nation on this issue but it was slowly outlawed, first the importing of any more slaves then after Civil Wars more as more and more realized slavery is wrong, unConstitutional and unBiblical too Blacks became full citizens; unfortunately it took the communists (MLK Jr) to get involved to make many see the light.jim4silver said:obediah said:Now that we have thrown off the US Constitution & it's foundation the word of God our leaders and many in positions of authority are doing things most of US would find reprehensible; America is responsible for the soft kill deaths of millions world wide and within US too, they are testing out new theories and drugs- agendas on large population groups both in food aditives and drug concoctions.
I guess back in the "good ole' days" when our the leaders followed the Constitution and believed in God and our country allowed for the enslavement of blacks and wiped out virtually the entire race of Native Americans and stole their land we as a country were a much better people. Maybe such things are allowed in the Bible and it is A-OK?
Ah, to long for such good ole' days.
Jim
The Indians did not live civilized nor did they own property. Though do acknowledge there were corrupt men in business and power who sought to exterminate indians- of course they were not Christians.
As for the Bible it is neither pro or con in regard to slavery, but slaves were NOT to be mistreated. Most of us today have sold ourselves into servitude and do not even realize it.
Oh and I never said they were the good ol days either, but will say people were wiser and could discern far better than they can today; even blacks had many wise men George Washington Carver is one that astonishes me the strength of both his character and faith in God; did you know he testified of God before Congress (1922 believe)?
If you look at history of mankind it is full of slaughters & injustices, the ones in America pale compared to most of rest of world; hay just look at Aztecs who captured peoples- tribes to slaughter B4 their gods by the 10's of thousands on their sacrificial days.
Actually, the "Indians" were wiped out in large part by US Cavalry who was under the control of the
Gov, those same that YOU said followed the Constitution and believed in god. Funny how you defend what they did by saying the "Indians" were uncivilized and did not own property. Even though they lived here for centuries and had specific areas where their tribes lived.
Jim
Are there really that many(?), way I understand it the Moslems would kill them; thought those that do believe in Jesus would be doing it secretly. Understand the Lebanese Christians are shrinking in numbers for same reason; the Iraqi ones have been decimated by our invasion; under Saddam they were relatively safe as he was not religious and did not see them as threat like Moslems do that are now in power there.Rich Hartford said:No did NOT defend what they did, and the Indians were horrible bucthers of innocents- they took no prisoners. You remind me of those who defend the "palestinians" in gaza who elected the Hamas gov (hamas is arabic for "violence"), who cry to the world that they are being mistreated by Israel with no mention of the above or the thousands of rockets launched from gaza into Israel, just as they are not innocent neither were the indians. And they were uncivilized and did not own property- they moved seasonally or when they hunted the game out of an area they moved. They also slaughtered themselves brutally too; but then look at US in Iraq & the stans, we do not want to hear the truth of what we are actually doing- we are the barbarians today slaughtering literally millions of innocents who get in the way of our Globalist agenda.
Obe,
Not to get off topic but maybe you can answer this. Why is it never mentioned that there are approximately 10,000 Christian Palestinians living in Gaza?
HH
Rich
timbobwey said:Ummm.... guys.. This discussion has gone way off topic from anything to do with coin roll hunting. Let's all just take a deep breath, and calm down. Everyone think about some silver. Think about how it sounds when falling and landing upon a pile of other silver coins. Just imagine stacks and stacks.... of silver...
Now we all feel better don't we??
CRH'ing is just a hobby, myself wish more of US had a passion for truth and what is aright and stood on it; we are facing some dire times, even now and they will only get worse- harder, change is coming and it is not gonna be good. There are few watchmen on the wall and even fewer listening with understanding either for sound of alarm- war either.timbobwey said:Ummm.... guys.. This discussion has gone way off topic from anything to do with coin roll hunting. Let's all just take a deep breath, and calm down. Everyone think about some silver. Think about how it sounds when falling and landing upon a pile of other silver coins. Just imagine stacks and stacks.... of silver...
Now we all feel better don't we??