That other one Taz found... it doesn't look like anyone could have possibly been trying to make a fantasy piece or fake unless they were going for realism in the fact that it's crude and ugly. The problem with that other one is that if it's fake, why would someone go through the trouble of creating such a patina on it? It's not symmetrical or pleasant to even look at, so unless someone was trying to throw a monkey wrench in the works, why go through the trouble. That makes me wonder if it's not real somehow. Maybe a kid made it years ago and lost it while playing? I don't know. I still maintain they are not ancient artifacts, and the one in this thread is made with the help of a machine. I just wonder why and how long ago exactly.