71 Napoleon army division or what is it???
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http://www.napoleon-series.org/military/organization/c_frenchinf8.html#71st
it looks that they were not French.. they fought in Belgium. so maybe opposite site -Austrian infantry?
it looks that they were not French.. they fought in Belgium. so maybe opposite site -Austrian infantry?
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LaZoOrro, the crown is going to be the key to identifying this, but I just know where to look. There must be a source . It seems very unique, wide and short, flared out, it doesn't seem to have a cross above it (?) which eliminates a lot of countries.
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I think I see a cross. 
Where was it found?
Where was it found?
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I believe the poster is from Sezana, which is in Slovenia near the Italian border.bigcypresshunter said:I think I see a cross.
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Although I don't see the cross, I'll trust bigcyprushunter's eye's that it is there. In which case it might possibly be Austria-Hungary, who did incorporate one of two crowns into their flag which resembles this one. It would be of a later date though then the Napoleonic era.
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johnnyi said:
YES YES I CAN CONFIRM THAT THERE IS CROSS (WEAK) ON THE CROWN!! IT WAS FOUND ON THE BORDER WITH ITALY...JUST 10 Km FROM CITY TRIESTE! I HEARD THAT THERE NAPOLEON HAD A FIGHT WITH LOCAL ORGANIZED THIEVES.. NOT SURE BUT I FOUND ALSO SOME FRENCH BUTTONS ON SAME PLACE..(CONFUSING : ONE WITH CROSSED CANNONS AND ONE MILITAIRES EQUIPEMENTS)
REALLY THX FOR HELP ..CROWN IS SIMILAR TO A BELGIAN ONE..BUT STILL IT LOOKS THEY DIDN'T HAD 71st AND NEITHER AUSTRIANS!
REALLY HARD ONE
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Could you post a pic of the buttons? Militaires Equipements buttons were used by WWI french troops. I dont know how much older. We should be able to date the crossed cannons Artillery button. http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php?topic=259335.0LaZoOro said:johnnyi said:
YES YES I CAN CONFIRM THAT THERE IS CROSS (WEAK) ON THE CROWN!! IT WAS FOUND ON THE BORDER WITH ITALY...JUST 10 Km FROM CITY TRIESTE! I HEARD THAT THERE NAPOLEON HAD A FIGHT WITH LOCAL ORGANIZED THIEVES.. NOT SURE BUT I FOUND ALSO SOME FRENCH BUTTONS ON SAME PLACE..(CONFUSING : ONE WITH CROSSED CANNONS AND ONE MILITAIRES EQUIPEMENTS)
REALLY THX FOR HELP ..CROWN IS SIMILAR TO A BELGIAN ONE..BUT STILL IT LOOKS THEY DIDN'T HAD 71st AND NEITHER AUSTRIANS!
REALLY HARD ONE
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Are those rifles muzzleloaders or am I seeing things? It looks like ramrods.
Also could you see what is in the background on the bottom under the crossed rifles?
Also could you see what is in the background on the bottom under the crossed rifles?
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I'm seeing a cannon Ken. I thought banner as well but looking on the back photo I see the cannon adjoins the the rifle.
I'd love to find one of those
I'd love to find one of those
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Yes, I think we are looking at a machine gun. http://sunblest.net/gun/Schwarz.htm That dates it 1890 or later. Probably WWI.. http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/FWWmachinegun.htm
Ill find your French Artillery button when I get a chance.
The Maxim Machine-Gun was adopted by the British Army in 1889. The following year the Austrian, German, Italian, Swiss and Russian armies also purchased Maxim's gun. The gun was first used by Britain`s colonial forces in the Matabele war in 1893-94. In one engagement, fifty soldiers fought off 5,000 Matabele warriors with just four Maxim guns.
The success of the Maxim Machine-Gun inspired other inventors. The German Army's Maschinengewehr and the Russian Pulemyot Maxima were both based on Maxim's invention. John Moses Browning produced his first machine-gun in 1890 and five years it was adopted by the US Navy. An Austrian, Count Odkolek, worked with the French company, Hotchkiss, to produce an effective gun that was adopted by the French Army in 1897.
Ill find your French Artillery button when I get a chance.
The Maxim Machine-Gun was adopted by the British Army in 1889. The following year the Austrian, German, Italian, Swiss and Russian armies also purchased Maxim's gun. The gun was first used by Britain`s colonial forces in the Matabele war in 1893-94. In one engagement, fifty soldiers fought off 5,000 Matabele warriors with just four Maxim guns.
The success of the Maxim Machine-Gun inspired other inventors. The German Army's Maschinengewehr and the Russian Pulemyot Maxima were both based on Maxim's invention. John Moses Browning produced his first machine-gun in 1890 and five years it was adopted by the US Navy. An Austrian, Count Odkolek, worked with the French company, Hotchkiss, to produce an effective gun that was adopted by the French Army in 1897.
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Is that a number 2 on the French Field Artillery button?
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Im not very familiar with your history but the French Artillerie button is from the Napoleonic era 1804-1815.
http://collectionboutonsempire.e-monsite.com/album-cat-1-97188.html
I think the plate is from WWI, if that is a machine gun depicted.
http://collectionboutonsempire.e-monsite.com/album-cat-1-97188.html
I think the plate is from WWI, if that is a machine gun depicted.
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Was it found near this battlefield? http://www.worldwar1.com/itafront/ison1916.htm
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bigcypresshunter said:Yes, I think we are looking at a machine gun. http://sunblest.net/gun/Schwarz.htm That dates it 1890 or later. Probably WWI.. http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/FWWmachinegun.htm
Ill find your French Artillery button when I get a chance.
The Maxim Machine-Gun was adopted by the British Army in 1889. The following year the Austrian, German, Italian, Swiss and Russian armies also purchased Maxim's gun. The gun was first used by Britain`s colonial forces in the Matabele war in 1893-94. In one engagement, fifty soldiers fought off 5,000 Matabele warriors with just four Maxim guns.
The success of the Maxim Machine-Gun inspired other inventors. The German Army's Maschinengewehr and the Russian Pulemyot Maxima were both based on Maxim's invention. John Moses Browning produced his first machine-gun in 1890 and five years it was adopted by the US Navy. An Austrian, Count Odkolek, worked with the French company, Hotchkiss, to produce an effective gun that was adopted by the French Army in 1897.
WOOW AMAZING!!! THANK YOU!
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