A few Guifords and MMs

[SCrocks]

A few Guifords and MM's

Framed a few of the quartz Guilfords and Morrow Mountains I picked up over the years. These two types are the most common types around my area. Thanks for the look

 

[NC field hunter]

Nice!!

 

[NCPeaches]

Very well put together! Those are awesome!

 

[Americus]

Very nice frame. Thanks for sharing.

 

[GatorBoy]

I would love to see what the artifacts would look like up there if you guys had flint we find morrow mountain points in northern florida they're huge sometimes

 

[The Grim Reaper]

Man!!! That is a very nice tray of artifacts. It's amazing they were able to knap that material as well as they did.

 

[ncnurseryman]

Great collection and display.

 

[Tnmountains]

I came in to see the Guilfords but have to admit I am impressed with the Morrow mountain more. I once read where it had vicious past. Not often we get good info on a type use. I have several but one is of a very fine quartz also. To give a little insight to that Morrow Mtn read this report in this post link.
Best wishes
http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/n...facts/310583-todays-find-need-some-input.html

 

[rock]

Nice frame and great points. I find the MM and Guilfords but the Guilfords always seem to be missing the tips. Thanks for the view man

 

[theviking]

Wow, great frame. The Quartz with the green background really makes it shine. Thanks for the view.

 

[ptsofnc]

Nice frame and great points. I find the MM and Guilfords but the Guilfords always seem to be missing the tips. Thanks for the view man

Same here about the Guilfords. Although I did find one this year that is as good as I've ever found and I've been collecting for 50 years. Tip just slightly dinged. Great display!

 

[redbeardrelics]

Beautiful frame SCrocks, thanks for posting. I am curious to know if you intentionally displayed the quartz and quartzite pieces in this frame, or if that is a true representation of the lithics assemblage you find for those two point types in your area?
PS(thank you TNmountains for the link to the previous MM post, and further link to the online reading, I have bookmarked it for later study. It reminded me of something I heard back in the 1970's that, I have not really heard since, probably because it is a theory that has been largely rejected now. Back in the mid 1970's as a youngster I found a broad shouldered stemmed point / "broadspear", my local artifact mentor informed me that any point with the broad shoulders like that was meant to be a war point, because the broad shoulders prevented it from being withdrawn from the enemy without causing even more flesh damage.)

 

[DigIron2]

very nice collection.They must have used allot of the same material in SC as here in VA?

 

[SCrocks]

Thanks for the comments folks. Redbeard I would say somewhere around 70% are quartz, 15%rhyolite and about the same shell/slate type materials. Varies some, a little less quartz and a little more rhyolite along the N.C. line. Just something to think about, here are a few good sized rhyolite ones I found. I and everyone I know call them MM's. However a couple years Dr. Goodyear looked at and handled these and some others not pictured and said they were not MM's and were from the woodland period associated with early pottery. A lot younger then MM's. He called them Mac points. Nothing is published on Mac points yet but he said he planed on writing about them at some point. Said he was busy with the Topper site. He said at first they were thought to have a small distrubution range around the center portion of S.C. but disturbution range is larger then first thought.

 

[timekiller]

Very Nice & looks very much like what's the most common here.
Take Care,
Pete,

 

[redbeardrelics]

Thanks for the comments folks. Redbeard I would say somewhere around 70% are quartz, 15%rhyolite and about the same shell/slate type materials. Varies some, a little less quartz and a little more rhyolite along the N.C. line. Just something to think about, here are a few good sized rhyolite ones I found. I and everyone I know call them MM's. However a couple years Dr. Goodyear looked at and handled these and some others not pictured and said they were not MM's and were from the woodland period associated with early pottery. A lot younger then MM's. He called them Mac points. Nothing is published on Mac points yet but he said he planed on writing about them at some point. Said he was busy with the Topper site. He said at first they were thought to have a small distrubution range around the center portion of S.C. but disturbution range is larger then first thought.
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Those are some awesome and large points SCrocks ! Very interesting to hear that they may be a new type tentatively called Macs. Did Dr. Goodyear expound on what the identifying differences are between those and MM's? Just wondering if it is the material selection, size, chipping patterns, or who knows what else, (other than thousands of years) that types them different. It has been a while since I desired a "Big Mac", but I sure do now after seeing yours. HH

 

[SCrocks]

Thanks Redbeard. He didn't expand on them any and at the time I did't think to ask. He usually attends the artifact show in Camden S.C every year in January. I plan on trying to attend this up coming show and speek to him again about them. Thanks