A GUIDE TO VAULT TREASURE HUNTING (Condensed)

[sdcfia]

While it is absolutely true that I have found 66 half of 132 (181.5 feet in increments of 33 inches or 2.75 feet) I have also found 66 feet and 132 feet in the (standard 12 inch foot), it is far more common that most of the measurements have been in the (12 inch foot) however even if they broke up the segments in (33 inches) they are still Not in Varas they are just breaking it up into different increments of 12 or 33 inch English units.

If the layouts are in 12-inch English-based measurements, then who was it that allegedly created these precisely measured patterns? It wouldn't be "the ancients" (widely inconsistent body part-based), or the Spanish (varas), or the French (crude metric). Anglos were not active in the American SW in any appreciable numbers until the end of the Mexican War, ca 1850. There were some mountain men working out of Taos who regularly trapped beavers out to the Colorado River and left numerous caches over the years, beginning about 1820, but they were caching pelts, gear, supplies, etc., not precious metals. Nor were they mining, with the exception of a couple reports of placer being found in southern California. That leaves only the Jesuits as perpetrators, who were familiar with all measurement systems, since they were highly educated and had dealings with numerous cultures. Are you claiming that these alleged caches are Jesuit?

 

[Secret squirl]

The outright compass degrees are truly a challenge, the only reason I believe my compass is on is due to different alignments being on 45 degrees as well as cardinal headings, however I am more of a believer in the change of degrees as I have consistently seen different degree angles off other lines such as a 49 Degree change and 77 Degree change etc.

To me the change in degrees always made more sense, as no matter the true north drift the change would always be constant.
I always have a variance shooting from A to B then B to A. I always get a few degrees of difference no matter the compass.

 

[Secret squirl]

Does anyone want to discuss the "A" or the "F"?
Has anyone found them?

 

[sdcfia]

Always use true north. Magnetic declination is constantly changing everywhere on earth. The rate of change also changes depending where you are. Where I live in NM, today's declination is 8° 16'E. 20 years ago it was 10° 12'E. A hundred years ago it was 13° 25'E. In 1800 it was back at 10° 26'E. Even a short 100' distance sighting with a 2° compass error ends up 3-1/2 feet off line.

Declination data to set your compass is updated daily on the NOAA website. Don't use the info on the USGS topo maps - it's outdated. Before modern technology made things easy, True North was determined by sighting Polaris at night or by calculating the sun's high noon position during the day. These methods have been used for thousands of years.

 

[Mattock]

Does anyone want to discuss the "A" or the "F"?
Has anyone found them?

Looks like the "A" and the "F" are not discussed hardly at all hopefully some one has something to say about them.

 

[Secret squirl]

According to the Calvin Keys book Turtles lead to treasure, F means final. As in final instruction. The A is used with the F as a confirmation in that book. Kenworthy says the A in and of itself is a word "go","at", "to". Kenworthy aslo says when the F is "on a map" it means Final step/measurement to the mine or treasure. But he specified "on a map", with no mention of in the field.
Has anyone found an F in the field? Was the "A" also found?

 

[Mattock]

I wonder where all that information 91098 that Kenworthy had gathered went. Someone out there has to have all of that history that he recorded. It sure would be interesting to be able to communicate with that person.

 

[Lost Horse]

Hi - Secret squirl - Quotes - Does anyone want to discuss the "A" or the "F"? - Has anyone found them?

Yes they Have Been Found
Check Out - https://www.treasurenet.com/threads...l-with-lost-horse.209633/page-26#post-7396614

Lost Horse

 

[Secret squirl]

Hi - Secret squirl - Quotes - Does anyone want to discuss the "A" or the "F"? - Has anyone found them?

Yes they Have Been Found
Check Out - https://www.treasurenet.com/threads...l-with-lost-horse.209633/page-26#post-7396614

Lost Horse

Lost Horse,
I am glad to see your back. I appreciate your information. Is there a reason you replied on your thread, then posted a link to it on this one?
So if I understand correctly, your saying the F is the location to switch to the final written map?

You posted
3– The Third Map - The Third Map From the F Marker would Show you,
and Bring you into the Mining Areas.

 

[Treasure Auras]

I wonder where all that information 9177 that Kenworthy had gathered went.Someone out there has to have all of that history that he recorded. It sure would be interesting to be able to communicate with that person.

I fellow Named Ryan who worked in the movie business in CA with Kenworthy ended up with all of Kenworthys Information. I talked with him once on the phone years ago.

 

[Lost Horse]

Hi - Secret squirl
I am Blacked Balled from Posting on this Sight

LostHorse

 

[Mattock]

I fellow Named Ryan who worked in the movie business in CA with Kenworthy ended up with all of Kenworthys Information. I talked with him once on the phone years ago.

I hope one of these days he decides to maybe share some of that info.

 

[Mattock]

Like I said previously SS it don't take long before a threadjacker or threaderailer shows up or they take you off there ignore list.

 

[Treasure Auras]

I hope one of these days he decides to maybe share some of that info.

Not likely he was not at all interested in sharing from what I was told.

 

[Mattock]

Not likely he was not at all interested in sharing from what I was told.

That's ok the knowledge we already have we can get it figured out.

 

[Quinoa]

Who made the traps, old (spanish or ancient) or new (sentinels) . I mean like 300-500 years + , or 100-200 years ago. The last one I dug up, i don't know , could have even been an empty vault with a trap that's always been there. Would have to explain it more I suppose. Maybe it depends on what type, like straight down or tunneled. I don't know. Maybe many caches are trapped anyways like the old mines?

 

[Treasure Auras]

Who made the traps, old (spanish or ancient) or new (sentinels) . I mean like 300-500 years + , or 100-200 years ago. The last one I dug up, i don't know , could have even been an empty vault with a trap that's always been there. Would have to explain it more I suppose. Maybe it depends on what type, like straight down or tunneled. I don't know. Maybe many caches are trapped anyways like the old mines?

The trap I encountered (dug up) underground was made by the Catholics in the 1700s here in AZ.

 

[Mattock]

Happy New Year Sandy1 and my friends.

 

[Quinoa]

The trap I encountered (dug up) underground was made by the Catholics in the 1700s here in AZ.

Ours could have been around that time period I suppose. I documented the dig with pictures, for the most part. we backhoed it on private property.

Alot of the stuff here is crypts like I've said before. I keep finding them , especially near the winter solstice when they are pretty easy to spot when start knowing what to look for.

Found another one 2 days ago...not really even trying, but I look around a lot and notice the standout stuff pretty easy now, same marker types, formations.. not going to explain them though here.

Would like to see people dig up straight down caches, which is your forte.. and really what I want to do as well. The crypts are tunneled with traps and they even show it nearby sometimes with a shadow image this time of year. looks like a tunnel and chamber shadow image and they show a trap type thing where the chamber is in the image. Its kooky looking, but when you see it 30-40 times, the same thing, you start taking notice of the repetition and layouts.

It's pretty much what you can feasibly dig and what you can't. Crypts are what was looted to fill the vaults and caches somewhat other than the leap frogged mining activity stashes. There's a lot up here they couldn't move out. It's just buried waiting for someone to come back and dig it up. Still working on more private land spots that I can a get backhoe to. Have some other places that will hand dig at some point this year probably.

I'll keep going after a big one. I have some support here of younger muscle, just what it takes. I can't do it alone anymore.

In one day around here , I could show people so much , and I feel bad not just divulging it. especially around the solstice. I don't know what to do with info right now. Nobody will get rich off it, the states will just take it away. Maybe I start a youtube channel/tick tock. and just divulge everything before I get shut down. I don't want to take it to my grave either. There's stuff here that is wild as heck. I don't know.

This whole journey when it started with me about 15 years ago was just supposed to be some spanish stuff that was mined and forgotten about and buried with a few caches and mines here and there,...... and people had a lot of pareidolia and saw stuff in rocks that wasn't really there except in their minds... . it is absolutely not that.

It's complete bizarre x10.. Nobody really has a dang clue of the scope of what's out there right now. And I say that in a calm way. With all the political conspiracy stuff, we'll just fade away because it's just becomes another conspiracy , or anything I post that's true, is just going to become Ai. I'm glad I made good friends before Ai came out with people like Sandy1 and a few others.

 

[Treasure Auras]

Ours could have been around that time period I suppose. I documented the dig with pictures, for the most part. we backhoed it on private property.

Alot of the stuff here is crypts like I've said before. I keep finding them , especially near the winter solstice when they are pretty easy to spot when start knowing what to look for.

Found another one 2 days ago...not really even trying, but I look around a lot and notice the standout stuff pretty easy now, same marker types, formations.. not going to explain them though here.

Would like to see people dig up straight down caches, which is your forte.. and really what I want to do as well. The crypts are tunneled with traps and they even show it nearby sometimes with a shadow image this time of year. looks like a tunnel and chamber shadow image and they show a trap type thing where the chamber is in the image. Its kooky looking, but when you see it 30-40 times, the same thing, you start taking notice of the repetition and layouts.

It's pretty much what you can feasibly dig and what you can't. Crypts are what was looted to fill the vaults and caches somewhat other than the leap frogged mining activity stashes. There's a lot up here they couldn't move out. It's just buried waiting for someone to come back and dig it up. Still working on more private land spots that I can a get backhoe to. Have some other places that will hand dig at some point this year probably.

I'll keep going after a big one. I have some support here of younger muscle, just what it takes. I can't do it alone anymore.

In one day around here , I could show people so much , and I feel bad not just divulging it. especially around the solstice. I don't know what to do with info right now. Nobody will get rich off it, the states will just take it away. Maybe I start a youtube channel/tick tock. and just divulge everything before I get shut down. I don't want to take it to my grave either. There's stuff here that is wild as heck. I don't know.

This whole journey when it started with me about 15 years ago was just supposed to be some spanish stuff that was mined and forgotten about and buried with a few caches and mines here and there,...... and people had a lot of pareidolia and saw stuff in rocks that wasn't really there except in their minds... . it is absolutely not that.

It's complete bizarre x10.. Nobody really has a dang clue of the scope of what's out there right now. And I say that in a calm way. With all the political conspiracy stuff, we'll just fade away because it's just becomes another conspiracy , or anything I post that's true, is just going to become Ai. I'm glad I made good friends before Ai came out with people like Sandy1 and a few others.

"Nobody really has a dang clue of the scope of what's out there right now" I Couldn't Agree More

This is why I started this thread because people who find a cache site think they have found something really singular this is why nobody wants to share information about what they think is such a rare find and its no wonder with people all over the net saying all the caches have already been dug up or there never were any treasures to begin with.

The Sentinels Like to throw out the word Pareidolia and use Logic (they wouldn't have done that much work etc.) in order to discourage people from believing in all the markers being found at the many many treasure sites Trying to keep the treasures safe from the general public.

So below is the word that I propose everybody should consider when you run into people who have an agenda to protect the treasures.

RETRODICT (1. state a fact about the past based on inference or deduction, rather than evidence.)