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Over 20 years ago I was active on the Tnet KGC forum. This forum had multiple posts and lots of discussions going on every day. I don’t know if it was because Brewer’s book had come out and popularized KGC treasure hunting or what was the reason but there was a lot of interest and forum activity. I finally left Tnet because I had enough with the naysayers. Every time I posted something, SWR, Alec, Jamie Dotson and others would discredit posts from me and others and I had finally had enough. On this one occasion, and as usual, SWR had no idea what he was talking about and kept it up with the negativity and finally Tnet admin stepped in and banned him from the site. I had just decided at that point that I would leave too and almost never looked at this forum again. I’ve been watching this forum since the beginning of the year and there has been no activity. Looking at most of the “recent” forum posts it seems that a lot of it is historical type information not relating to actually talking about how to find KGC treasure. Does anyone actually hunt for KGC treasure anymore? As I’m getting older I’ve started thinking about posting more information about how the KGC hides their treasure.
I have never seen, in a book, in a video, or on this forum, anyone post how their treasure layouts work, how the carvings tie back to the layout, how to read the carvings, what are the pointer trees for, what do you do with the clues buried in the ground, etc. I’ve even thought about starting a Youtube channel to teach this but honestly I’m a little nervous about doing this because the KGC still exists. I don’t think they are the super large organization they once were. There appears to be abandoned treasure layouts. Those still in operation will not like the information I release. I’ve seen lots of misinformation out there too. Years ago there were posts about following clues. “I’ve found a horseshoe, what do I do now? Go the direction in which the horse walks”. This is probably nonsense. But if there is interest, I’ll go into details about what to do next. I think Bob Brewer does know some things, but I don’t know to what extent because he has never really shown the underlying premise to hunting all KGC layouts. I’ve heard him say you run lines but he once talked about lines that are something like a mile long or more. I’ve hunted multiple sites and at one site the longest line was 338 feet. At another site the longest line was 500 feet. No rods! No Chains! Just feet and sometimes inches. I recently saw one of Terry Carter’s Youtube videos where one of the experts claimed a carved symbol was a vault symbol. It was not a vault symbol. I know exactly what that symbol is as I’ve come across it several times and it was used the same way each time but not as a symbol of a vault. There are a couple of symbols that I’ve found that represent a vault. The typical KGC vault is an opening into the ground going down usually 20 to 50 feet down and then turns horizontal like an ‘L’. Take a look at this carved symbol showing information on a vault.
Unfortunately you can’t see more to the right but there are 2 ‘H’s. You see this ‘M’ above. The right side of the ‘M’ is pointing at the left of the 2 Hs which has the bottom center turned into a box shape representing the treasure/box and the left side of the ‘M’ is pointing at the vault symbol and the ovalish shape. This oval shape is touching the vault symbol. Those 2 Hs represent 2 hills side by side. The oval shape touching the vault symbol is the shape of the left most hill. In other words if you look at a 7.5 minute quadrangle topographic map, you will see that the left hill is being represented by that oval shape exactly as on the carving as it is on the map. To the right which you cannot see in this picture, is another shape which is the shape of the right ‘H’ or hill as well. This oval shaped hill is not where the vault is located, it is where the first marker of the treasure layout to the vault is located. There are more symbols on this tree which give all this information. This is a picture of a map tree and it has symbols all the way around it. There is another symbol showing that the 2nd treasure is a cook pot.
This is the same tree to the right of the 2 ‘H’s. Look at the upper left most symbol. It almost looks like a face with ears. That is a cook pot with handles. See how it is touching the left side of a hill. On the right side is a shape that is overlapping the right side of the hill. Again, this shape is the shape of the hill looking down from above. This is the shape of that hill as represented on the 7.5 minute topographic map of that area. Look just underneath the hill symbol and you will see a shoe print. This is showing that running just to the side of that hill is either a small fordable creek, or a larger trench. Whatever you call it, it is dry most of the time, you could walk down it. Again, this cook pot is not buried where it touches the hill in the carving but it is where the first marker is located for the layout to this treasure. These are in Texas and at ALL layouts I’ve hunted, they begin with a pointer tree pointing to the first marker in the layout. These pointer trees are shown in the carvings along with the bearing they are pointing. While we are looking at this picture, notice the sword pointing at a ‘2’. Notice touching the sword is a V5. The right side of the V is pointing to the sword and is the 22nd letter of the alphabet. The 5 is touching the sword. What they are showing is a bearing of 225 degrees. Again, to the left of this not visible they are showing a location of some iron markers. When you go there with your metal detector, just below the surface (as with nearly all iron markers) is buried 2 blades (see picture below, probably from some type of farming instrument) that are laying side by side pointing 45/225 degrees. If you locate the spot on the topo map where these are buried and follow the bearing, you will see it crosses a creek at a spot where the creek is shaped like the ‘2’ the sword is pointing at. Notice the dot to the right of the 2 on the carving. This is what they are taking you to.
This post is getting long so I’ll stop right here. I gave a couple of presentations at the Texas Treasure show about 9 years ago showing this type of information and more but the bulk of the crowd were metal detectorists and a lot probably didn't resonate with them. It would be fun to have a gathering of KGC hunters to exchange this kind of information. Take care!
I have never seen, in a book, in a video, or on this forum, anyone post how their treasure layouts work, how the carvings tie back to the layout, how to read the carvings, what are the pointer trees for, what do you do with the clues buried in the ground, etc. I’ve even thought about starting a Youtube channel to teach this but honestly I’m a little nervous about doing this because the KGC still exists. I don’t think they are the super large organization they once were. There appears to be abandoned treasure layouts. Those still in operation will not like the information I release. I’ve seen lots of misinformation out there too. Years ago there were posts about following clues. “I’ve found a horseshoe, what do I do now? Go the direction in which the horse walks”. This is probably nonsense. But if there is interest, I’ll go into details about what to do next. I think Bob Brewer does know some things, but I don’t know to what extent because he has never really shown the underlying premise to hunting all KGC layouts. I’ve heard him say you run lines but he once talked about lines that are something like a mile long or more. I’ve hunted multiple sites and at one site the longest line was 338 feet. At another site the longest line was 500 feet. No rods! No Chains! Just feet and sometimes inches. I recently saw one of Terry Carter’s Youtube videos where one of the experts claimed a carved symbol was a vault symbol. It was not a vault symbol. I know exactly what that symbol is as I’ve come across it several times and it was used the same way each time but not as a symbol of a vault. There are a couple of symbols that I’ve found that represent a vault. The typical KGC vault is an opening into the ground going down usually 20 to 50 feet down and then turns horizontal like an ‘L’. Take a look at this carved symbol showing information on a vault.
Unfortunately you can’t see more to the right but there are 2 ‘H’s. You see this ‘M’ above. The right side of the ‘M’ is pointing at the left of the 2 Hs which has the bottom center turned into a box shape representing the treasure/box and the left side of the ‘M’ is pointing at the vault symbol and the ovalish shape. This oval shape is touching the vault symbol. Those 2 Hs represent 2 hills side by side. The oval shape touching the vault symbol is the shape of the left most hill. In other words if you look at a 7.5 minute quadrangle topographic map, you will see that the left hill is being represented by that oval shape exactly as on the carving as it is on the map. To the right which you cannot see in this picture, is another shape which is the shape of the right ‘H’ or hill as well. This oval shaped hill is not where the vault is located, it is where the first marker of the treasure layout to the vault is located. There are more symbols on this tree which give all this information. This is a picture of a map tree and it has symbols all the way around it. There is another symbol showing that the 2nd treasure is a cook pot.
This is the same tree to the right of the 2 ‘H’s. Look at the upper left most symbol. It almost looks like a face with ears. That is a cook pot with handles. See how it is touching the left side of a hill. On the right side is a shape that is overlapping the right side of the hill. Again, this shape is the shape of the hill looking down from above. This is the shape of that hill as represented on the 7.5 minute topographic map of that area. Look just underneath the hill symbol and you will see a shoe print. This is showing that running just to the side of that hill is either a small fordable creek, or a larger trench. Whatever you call it, it is dry most of the time, you could walk down it. Again, this cook pot is not buried where it touches the hill in the carving but it is where the first marker is located for the layout to this treasure. These are in Texas and at ALL layouts I’ve hunted, they begin with a pointer tree pointing to the first marker in the layout. These pointer trees are shown in the carvings along with the bearing they are pointing. While we are looking at this picture, notice the sword pointing at a ‘2’. Notice touching the sword is a V5. The right side of the V is pointing to the sword and is the 22nd letter of the alphabet. The 5 is touching the sword. What they are showing is a bearing of 225 degrees. Again, to the left of this not visible they are showing a location of some iron markers. When you go there with your metal detector, just below the surface (as with nearly all iron markers) is buried 2 blades (see picture below, probably from some type of farming instrument) that are laying side by side pointing 45/225 degrees. If you locate the spot on the topo map where these are buried and follow the bearing, you will see it crosses a creek at a spot where the creek is shaped like the ‘2’ the sword is pointing at. Notice the dot to the right of the 2 on the carving. This is what they are taking you to.
This post is getting long so I’ll stop right here. I gave a couple of presentations at the Texas Treasure show about 9 years ago showing this type of information and more but the bulk of the crowd were metal detectorists and a lot probably didn't resonate with them. It would be fun to have a gathering of KGC hunters to exchange this kind of information. Take care!
