A GUIDE TO VAULT TREASURE HUNTING (Condensed)

[Treasure Auras]

It’s obvious FTR. This is the only thread that anybody pays attention to him.

Unless I am incorrect this is the only active thread in the markers section

 

[Carl-NC]

Deleting my rude message to avoid a ban....

If my posts upset you, don't read my posts. They are directed at people who want answers.

 

[Fordtrucksrule]

If my posts upset you, don't read my posts. They are directed at people who want answers.

My brother lives in Washington. He has had no problems finding any of these markers. Ever thought of going outside and looking around? Not that difficult..

 

[Carl-NC]

My brother lives in Washington. He has had no problems finding any of these markers. Ever thought of going outside and looking around? Not that difficult..

I see them, too. I've seen them here, in Oregon, NC, AZ, NM, TX, Canada, Australia, Indonesia, and South Africa. By god, they're everywhere!

 

[Sangre De Cristo]

Yes I do have some of Calvin Keys information that was not published that was given to me but cannot share on an open forum. The 130 foot triangle came from Calvin and was given to him by Kenworthy.

Have been experimenting with the iPhone 15 measurement App and using a tape measure to compare the iPhone measurements for precision, and the app has been spot on both up hill and down! It has also proven to be correct up to 140 feet and guess it can go further. It can be used under a dense canopy, it requires you to move very slowly and works in airplane mode. The 100 Ft tape is retired.

 

[Bygolly]

I see them, too. I've seen them here, in Oregon, NC, AZ, NM, TX, Canada, Australia, Indonesia, and South Africa. By god, they're everywhere!

So you have seen man made stone markers, you know they exist. Then it seems the issue is, you just dont think they are used in the way or mean what the OP says they are. You don't believe the OP, or anyone who has used his system, has EVER recovered anything of value. You just think its all talk.

Because why? You haven't put in the work yourself to actually test his methods? Because the so called "experts" such as geologists and the like don't concur? Let me guess, you probably also believed the "experts" when they said the covid vax was safe and effective too right?

If you're not willing to test the system yourself, or even discuss the issue with the people who have thoroughly tested the system with respect, then your opinion in this thread is not worth a damn.

It seems you're very knowledgeable when it comes to the electronic aspects, such as GPRs and detectors and whatnot, and that information is very useful (when it applies); but obviously, those things didn't exists when the Spanish designed and engineered these vaults. So they have to be recovered in a similar fashion. Don't be pissy just because your methods are useless in these cases.

Someday, hopefully we'll still be around when the technology to find these buried vaults will become available for the public to use and then you'll be one of the experts right up on top and at that point, this whole system will be useless. But until then, don't doubt what you don't know, or aren't even willing to TRY to understand. Just sayin.

 

[Crosse De Sign]

Witch

 

[Treasure Auras]

So you have seen man made stone markers, you know they exist. Then it seems the issue is, you just dont think they are used in the way or mean what the OP says they are. You don't believe the OP, or anyone who has used his system, has EVER recovered anything of value. You just think its all talk.

Because why? You haven't put in the work yourself to actually test his methods? Because the so called "experts" such as geologists and the like don't concur? Let me guess, you probably also believed the "experts" when they said the covid vax was safe and effective too right?

If you're not willing to test the system yourself, or even discuss the issue with the people who have thoroughly tested the system with respect, then your opinion in this thread is not worth a damn.

It seems you're very knowledgeable when it comes to the electronic aspects, such as GPRs and detectors and whatnot, and that information is very useful (when it applies); but obviously, those things didn't exists when the Spanish designed and engineered these vaults. So they have to be recovered in a similar fashion. Don't be pissy just because your methods are useless in these cases.

Someday, hopefully we'll still be around when the technology to find these buried vaults will become available for the public to use and then you'll be one of the experts right up on top and at that point, this whole system will be useless. But until then, don't doubt what you don't know, or aren't even willing to TRY to understand. Just sayin.

Unfortunately you are beating your head against a wall here, no evidence or proof will ever be good enough. I have posted Auras and the markers at them as well as Sentinel activity even treasure and a vault, nothing is ever good enough.

 

[Bygolly]

Unfortunately you are beating your head against a wall here, no evidence or proof will ever be good enough. I have posted Auras and the markers at them as well as Sentinel activity even treasure and a vault, nothing is ever good enough.

I know it. You can lead a person to knowledge, but you cant make em think.

 

[Crosse De Sign]

Unfortunately you are beating your head against a wall here, no evidence or proof will ever be good enough. I have posted Auras and the markers at them as well as Sentinel activity even treasure and a vault, nothing is ever good enough.

I know it. You can lead a person to knowledge, but you cant make em think.

Yes, & also unfortunately, chaos & disruption is their game: Relentless your crazy or stupid, or seeing things aren't there, etc. Then too it often seems they're favored
in an argument they may start & then would want to complain, or God help you if a full blown contest of thought & words, like sandy1 said, even with alot of proof,
but although initiating & provoking, want to try & get someone banned, or even worse, because it's thought of as rational or realistic, just to be a detectorist only,
not understand the things we know & seek. Be mean and seem justified, because we're portrayed as the bad guys, although we leave people alone. They seem
to easily make it look like us, sometimes getting plum away with the chaos & provocation they work to gang up, try to cause a flareup with harsh statements,
jeering, mocking. Not making good sense to those of us honestly in the know, but always trying to cause trouble, because that's their intention & purpose.

 

[sdcfia]

It always amazes when a person comes on a Treasure Hunting Website just to Tell Everybody Not to Believe in Auras or Pre 1800's Markers or even Buried Catholic Treasures.

I'll ask again.

But first, based on the available legal documentation defining regulation of the Crown's mining ventures in the New World, we know for a fact that there is and never was a "King's Code" compelling mining contractors to follow a defined system marking "Spanish gold caches" in the Northern Frontier or even within Mexico, for that matter. That nonsense was foisted on the gulible public by book and magazine writers many decades ago, and accelerated when the "KGC phenomenon" gained traction in the 1970s. Yes, many physical "signs and markers" exist, but they're a ruse and the reason why was pointed out earlier. Enough of that.

To the point. You've insinuated that these Arizona caches are Catholic, ie Jesuit caches secured prior to the Order's expulsion from Spanish America in 1767. This is a different animal and has its own explanations and allegations. The Jesuits clearly qualify for having the intellect and mathematical ability to establish a private "code" system for securing hidden mines and buried caches. That much is well known.

The question you don't respond to: if these are not "Spanish", but abandoned Jesuit caches, can't we assume 1) the Jesuits know where they are located, and 2) they can prove a legal claim of ownership based on their own proof and knowledge of their exact locations? That being the case, if an outsider found and seized such a cache, isn't he likely vulnerable to legal ramifications if such a recovery could be alleged or shown to have occured? Other similar lawsuits in the treasure hunting world have been numerous. What say you?

 

[Carl-NC]

So you have seen man made stone markers, you know they exist.

I see funny-looking rocks, but no sign of being man-made. And if the funny-looking rocks I see in Washington are man-made, who made them? Jesuits? Spanish explorers? KGC? What about the funny-looking rocks I saw in South Africa? Or Indonesia?

You don't believe the OP, or anyone who has used his system, has EVER recovered anything of value. You just think its all talk.

So far, that's all I've seen. Can you blame me for believing what I see?

Because why? You haven't put in the work yourself to actually test his methods?

This is the exact same argument used by LRL proponents; that I can't possibly know if LRLs work if I haven't personally tried them. But I have investigated LRLs; I own a whole bunch of them, and they are invariably a scam. Even a whole lotta folks in this very thread agree with me on that, which was quite the (pleasant) surprise. And I've also investigated auras, from SX-70 to digital; they aren't real. The basis for auras is exactly the same as the basis for LRLs: that buried gold emits some kind of energy. Sorry, 'tain't so. Otherwise, on the subject of markers and monuments, I see pictures of funny-looking rocks that are natural and, so far, don't seem to lead to anything interesting except for what people concoct in their minds. As with LRLs, I'm perfectly willing to be proven wrong -- or even discuss it rationally -- but nobody seems to want to do that; instead they just attack me personally.

Here's the funny thing: I develop equipment for treasure hunting. If buried treasure emitted energy in any form, that's something I can work with and I would be aggressively developing equipment to look for this energy. But not nearly as aggressively as bigger companies with large R&D budgets. But in 40 years of aura and LRL claims, no one is even looking at this. When I see a Minelab aura detector, you will see me post a most sincere apology.

And, yes, I found the Covid vaccine perfectly safe and I never got Covid, despite living in a hard-MAGA area where Covid was widespread and quite a few people died. I'm very happy with my decision. When the next booster rolls around, I'll be in line.

Now, let's see how many frowny faces I can get on this post.

 

[Crosse De Sign]

To whom it may concern, & including all of your great & dignified employers & magnificent well educated associates whom you work with. You folks know: we owe you nothing. No Proof beyond what sandy1 & several others have presented repeatedly.
No further explanation of anything more even with the disrespectful hounding, than what all has clearly already freely, openly & honestly, been given to all; some that have an eye to see & an ear to hear, multiple times, from long ago, like bout a decade now.
We know that you all well know this, & are clearly totally aware some of your flock are just picking up with your already previously well known & long exhibited restless spirit & rhetorical posting agendas, seeking to be intentionally annoying, as well as destructive.
Too bad! It will Not now or Ever, help your sneaky disruptive plans to thwart any works here or anywhere else! Sure, you can hound, criticize, try to belittle, keep poking & yes, your right about that. Open forum, so sandy1 & all the rest of the peaceful folks on here have
not power nor authority to stop you from doing this. So let it be known to all of the participants, honest open minded readers & intelligent truth seekers, as well the mockers, deniers & selfish haters, there is nothing that can be done, we've endured these ugly games before...
Selah!

 

[Treasure Auras]

To whom it may concern, & including all of your great & dignified employers & magnificent well educated associates whom you work with. You folks know: we owe you nothing. No Proof beyond what sandy1 & several others have presented repeatedly.
No further explanation of anything more even with the disrespectful hounding, than what all has clearly already freely, openly & honestly, been given to all; some that have an eye to see & an ear to hear, multiple times, from long ago, like bout a decade now.
We know that you all well know this, & are clearly totally aware some of your flock are just picking up with your already previously well known & long exhibited restless spirit & rhetorical posting agendas, seeking to be intentionally annoying, as well as destructive.
Too bad! It will Not now or Ever, help your sneaky disruptive plans to thwart any works here or anywhere else! Sure, you can hound, criticize, try to belittle, keep poking & yes, your right about that. Open forum, so sandy1 & all the rest of the peaceful folks on here have
not power nor authority to stop you from doing this. So let it be known to all of the participants, honest open minded readers & intelligent truth seekers, as well the mockers, deniers & selfish haters, there is nothing that can be done, we've endured these ugly games before...
Selah!

I just want to say one thing. Thinking something doesn't work really is just a sad excuse not to try, and I much prefer the proof I have over some lazy persons weird disbelieving ideas. All these arguments of logic are just one Excuse after another to be lazy.

 

[Puff the Tragic Wagon]

Fascinating. The dynamics on this thread are textbook. I almost feel empathy for Sandy1, except that all appearances suggest he revels in the adoration.

In psychiatry and clinical psychology, there isn't a single standalone term that exclusively describes the specific behavior I’m observing here, but the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual (DSM-5) outlines this exact behavior under the criteria for NPD as a "belief that they are special and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people or institutions".

In broader psychological, behavioral, and cultural terms, this dynamic is often described using several related concepts.

Clinical & Psychological Terms:

• Basking in Reflected Glory (BIRGing): This is a recognized psychological phenomenon where an individual associates themselves with the success, prestige, or high status of others to boost their own self-esteem and public image.

• Grandiose Association / Idealized Reflection: In psychodynamic theory, individuals with fragile self-worth project a grandiose version of themselves. They latch onto influential or powerful figures, viewing them as an extension of themselves to absorb their status.

• Histrionic Traits: If the attachment is highly dramatic, theatrical, or superficial solely to remain the center of attention, it may align with Histrionic Personality Disorder (HPD).

In non-medical or colloquial terms that describe this behavior, common descriptors include:

• Social Climber / Status Seeker: Someone who selectively builds relationships based purely on a person's social standing or power to elevate their own rank.

• Coattail Rider: A phrase used for someone who hitches their identity, career, or importance to the achievements of a more successful person.

• Sycophant: A person who acts obsequiously toward someone important in order to gain an advantage or personal status.

Just sayin’.

Sadly, there are still one or two well meaning souls who continue to reach out in hopes of bringing reality back into focus here, only to end up attacked for their efforts. As I’m sure will I be attacked after posting. It’s a shame to see such an adversarial approach to those who are only attempting a conversation with you Sandy.

There’s a reason this thread sits alone on its ‘sticky’.

 

[Treasure Auras]

Fascinating. The dynamics on this thread are textbook. I almost feel empathy for Sandy1, except that all appearances suggest he revels in the adoration.

In psychiatry and clinical psychology, there isn't a single standalone term that exclusively describes the specific behavior I’m observing here, but the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual (DSM-5) outlines this exact behavior under the criteria for NPD as a "belief that they are special and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people or institutions".

In broader psychological, behavioral, and cultural terms, this dynamic is often described using several related concepts.

Clinical & Psychological Terms:

• Basking in Reflected Glory (BIRGing): This is a recognized psychological phenomenon where an individual associates themselves with the success, prestige, or high status of others to boost their own self-esteem and public image.

• Grandiose Association / Idealized Reflection: In psychodynamic theory, individuals with fragile self-worth project a grandiose version of themselves. They latch onto influential or powerful figures, viewing them as an extension of themselves to absorb their status.

• Histrionic Traits: If the attachment is highly dramatic, theatrical, or superficial solely to remain the center of attention, it may align with Histrionic Personality Disorder (HPD).

In non-medical or colloquial terms that describe this behavior, common descriptors include:

• Social Climber / Status Seeker: Someone who selectively builds relationships based purely on a person's social standing or power to elevate their own rank.

• Coattail Rider: A phrase used for someone who hitches their identity, career, or importance to the achievements of a more successful person.

• Sycophant: A person who acts obsequiously toward someone important in order to gain an advantage or personal status.

Just sayin’.

Sadly, there are still one or two well meaning souls who continue to reach out in hopes of bringing reality back into focus here, only to end up attacked for their efforts. As I’m sure will I be attacked after posting. It’s a shame to see such an adversarial approach to those who are only attempting a conversation with you Sandy.

There’s a reason this thread sits alone on its ‘sticky’.

Believe me when I say, my only goal here was to make public my knowledge and give others a chance to try out for themselves what I have found, this thread was never meant to be about me. But people who try to shut down treasure hunting should not be allowed to do so on a treasure hunting website.

 

[Carl-NC]

I just want to say one thing. Thinking something doesn't work really is just a sad excuse not to try, and I much prefer the proof I have over some lazy persons weird disbelieving ideas. All these arguments of logic are just one Excuse after another to be lazy.

I think you missed my post where I said, "I've also investigated auras, from SX-70 to digital." Of course, maybe you're calling someone else lazy, I dunno.

 

[Fordtrucksrule]

I was skeptical at first. I decided to give it a try. Im not disappointed with the results.
I already know Im not going to change anybody mind but can only say go try it and see what you think. I think its pretty cool honestly.

 

[Treasure Auras]

I was skeptical at first. I decided to give it a try. Im not disappointed with the results.
I already know Im not going to change anybody mind but can only say go try it and see what you think. I think its pretty cool honestly.

I am very happy to see you tried out the auras, but this is not just about auras there is a ton of information on markers as well. I wanted to mention that since the Auras and markers go hand and hand. Without the markers I found at the aura sites I would not have believed that auras were from treasures either.

 

[Fordtrucksrule]

I am very happy to see you tried out the auras, but this is not just about auras there is a ton of information on markers as well. I wanted to mention that since the Auras and markers go hand and hand.

If you actually go and try, yes. Believe me when I say that if I did try your methods and they didnt work, Id been your worse attacker starting several years ago.
Here I am defending you from people who haven't really tried.....