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A strong start - season 6

Don't believe everything you read. People have made a lot of money publishing books filled with nonsense.

I never believe anything I read until I research it and check it out for myself.
 
What a pathetic show! A spear point from the Roman era…get real. They continue with their one hour of not advancing the information or Facts. The constant rehash of details again and again. A bottomless pit of cash flow. Guys get it done! Stop throwingout BS in order that you fill up an hour and continue your desire to be on your own TV show.
 
According to my KJV Bible it was made of "Shittim Wood", sometimes translated as "Shittam" or "Arcadia"


Since you quoted it, you obviously read it, so why try to deceive everyone?
the lid was solid gold as were the rings and cherubim

Ok ... but wouldnt that make it really really heavy? Gold is a soft mineral ,, how were the rings attached? How did the Israelites do all this in the middle of the desert with Acacia wood (shrubbery) and an open fire ? Why would it be gold? God has no use for gold, he spoke the universe into existence. and is in the business of saving souls. Why would any value be placed on anything other than obedience to god.
 
Gold was used because it is a "Positive Metal" and rare.
 
Ok ... but wouldn't that make it really really heavy? Gold is a soft mineral ,, how were the rings attached? How did the Israelites do all this in the middle of the desert with Acacia wood (shrubbery) and an open fire ? Why would it be gold? God has no use for gold, he spoke the universe into existence. and is in the business of saving souls. Why would any value be placed on anything other than obedience to god.

If you add up all the Biblical passages about gold and finances it is by the most important topic. More than 2,000 references. Far surpassing heaven or salvation.

So obviously the writers and priests knew how to keep a poor and uneducated audience interested, and the wealthy as well. Though the New Testament verses on gold and wealth are mostly about the dangers of coveting it.
 
From my sources, more evidence of Roman existence on OI will be "unearthed". For what it is worth. I don't believe the Roman theory either.
 
From my sources, more evidence of Roman existence on OI will be "unearthed". For what it is worth. I don't believe the Roman theory either.

This fits nicely with the professional wrestling filter. Let's see what happens.
 
More evidence... They have not offered any evidence yet...

I see your point. The history channel is lying just for ratings. Right?
 
I see your point. The history channel is lying just for ratings. Right?

Not quite lying.... them harsh words....

More like "enhancing" the story line to fulfill the 30 episode season.
Its a grand story brought to us in weekly installments.
6 seasons long.... maybe more.
 
Lets just say they are introducing possible conclusions that are unsupportable with the evidence presented.

Lead, from Europe, on an island in Nova Scotia? And if so [this is where the slight of hand comes in] could it be Templars, or Romans, but never some poor down-on his luck fisherman without two pennies to his name to rub together.

Everything they have found of interest has been on the surface away from Borehole 10X (which itself is some hundred plus feet from the original pit).

And do you know how Blankenship decided where to drill 10X?
 
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So what is true that was presented on the show? The cross? The spear tip? The bones? The book bindings? The broaches? The coins?
 
So what is true that was presented on the show? The cross? The spear tip? The bones? The book bindings? The broaches? The coins?
It is not what they are finding and presenting.. I do not think they are planting stuff (if they were it would be more convincing stuff).. It is just the unsupported conclusions they are jumping too. This backed up with "questionable" experts opinions which are just extreme and illogical..

The cross = What is fact? - A piece of lead that is cross shaped was found in Smiths cove. Unsupported assertions. 1. It is an ancient Cartergian cross of the goddess Tanit. 2. It is an Ancient KT cross. No evidence offered for either.. It is possible to date lead and they have not done this...

The spear tip = A piece of what appears to match a reasonable common old Canadian Giggin spear. These were common in the area. Unsupported assertions 1. A old crossbow bolt 2. The spear tip of an ancient roman spear. This in spite of not making any attempt to eliminate the most obvious answer and ignores how good of condition the iron is (limited rust for 2000+ year old thin iron pole buried in water/dirt). The is nothing that supports it a Roman spear other then a "expert" seeing a picture and saying it "looks like" a roman Pilum.

The bones = Interesting but findings are questionable. No more bone has been found. The conclusions drawn based on such small samples are questionable. Where are the rest of the two different skeletons? Bones do not disappear and they have dug the hole where they were found...

The book binding = The is no evidence this is a book binding. This is an assumption they are making. Even if it is a book binding it is not evidence of anything other then an old book was dropped in one of the holes treasure searchers have been digging for the last 200+ years..

The broaches = Two old (Not ancient) near worthless broaches. These have been found on a place that has human habitation for hundreds of years.. They show humans have been on the island. Nothing else.

Coins= No coins of any particular significance have been found. Old Spanish coins were common used currency back in the day. This is well documented. The other coins simply show that people with English coins dropped some on the island in the last couple of hundred years. The date of the coins does not mean the date they were lost. None of the coins they have found are valuable or rare.

Take away the "treasure legend" and look at the finds they have and one would expect similar finds could be made in any area inhabited by humans for a few hundred years.

None of it supports the treasure legend.....

It is not that they are faking finds.. Just making baseless, unsupported assertions about quite trivial and common finds....
 
Tonight's big find was wood, supposedly from an ancient shaft 6. Too bad they can't send down a micro robot to immediately explore in all directions rather than drilling multiple holes to confirm the direction of #6 and supposedly the original money pit location.
 
They Can...And...They Will!...Stay Tuned!

Tonight's big find was wood, supposedly from an ancient shaft 6. Too bad they can't send down a micro robot to immediately explore in all directions rather than drilling multiple holes to confirm the direction of #6 and supposedly the original money pit location.


Laser Scanning!

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This episode was meh. They found some wood and that was about it. I watch it Just because there is nothing on during that time slot. But that narrator he gets on my nerves. Sipping on some crown royal males it a bit more tolerable. Stay tuned for next wks episode where they find a Jim beam bottle at a depth of 175 ft lol.
 
It is not what they are finding and presenting.. I do not think they are planting stuff (if they were it would be more convincing stuff).. It is just the unsupported conclusions they are jumping too. This backed up with "questionable" experts opinions which are just extreme and illogical..

The cross = What is fact? - A piece of lead that is cross shaped was found in Smiths cove. Unsupported assertions. 1. It is an ancient Cartergian cross of the goddess Tanit. 2. It is an Ancient KT cross. No evidence offered for either.. It is possible to date lead and they have not done this...

The spear tip = A piece of what appears to match a reasonable common old Canadian Giggin spear. These were common in the area. Unsupported assertions 1. A old crossbow bolt 2. The spear tip of an ancient roman spear. This in spite of not making any attempt to eliminate the most obvious answer and ignores how good of condition the iron is (limited rust for 2000+ year old thin iron pole buried in water/dirt). The is nothing that supports it a Roman spear other then a "expert" seeing a picture and saying it "looks like" a roman Pilum.

The bones = Interesting but findings are questionable. No more bone has been found. The conclusions drawn based on such small samples are questionable. Where are the rest of the two different skeletons? Bones do not disappear and they have dug the hole where they were found...

The book binding = The is no evidence this is a book binding. This is an assumption they are making. Even if it is a book binding it is not evidence of anything other then an old book was dropped in one of the holes treasure searchers have been digging for the last 200+ years..

The broaches = Two old (Not ancient) near worthless broaches. These have been found on a place that has human habitation for hundreds of years.. They show humans have been on the island. Nothing else.

Coins= No coins of any particular significance have been found. Old Spanish coins were common used currency back in the day. This is well documented. The other coins simply show that people with English coins dropped some on the island in the last couple of hundred years. The date of the coins does not mean the date they were lost. None of the coins they have found are valuable or rare.

Take away the "treasure legend" and look at the finds they have and one would expect similar finds could be made in any area inhabited by humans for a few hundred years.

None of it supports the treasure legend.....

It is not that they are faking finds.. Just making baseless, unsupported assertions about quite trivial and common finds....

Fabulous post.....
 
Episode 5 certainly shows the problem with their 30 episode season... It was quite boring for the most part..More junk found by the metal detecting guy that we are supposed to believe is significant. It could of been anything...

The possible find of Shaft 6 is a positive development... It would be cool if they can identify where the original "alleged" money pit actually is and drill a hole there. I look forward to see where this leads too.

Cool to see Smiths Cove coffer dam coming along. This is the main reason I am watching this season. I would really like to learn the truth of what happened at Smiths Cove...

Overall a pretty boring episode with nothing really happening. Only 25 more to go before they show us anything they actually find....

At least that found a storage container for all that old ladies notes and questionable research.

That copy of a document they are quoting about the KT Templar trip to the Americas has NO ORIGINAL THAT ANYONE HAS EVER SEEN....

(For those interested here is a link Zena's work/book https://zenahalpern.com/)

I looked for some reviews
The potential for a really great book for Oak Island readers may be in the works, but, right now, I find too many of her variables lack of documentation by qualified archaeologist and/or museums.
Seems to wrap them up.

There is no real evidence for any of her claims. Their is no original manuscript for which she is claiming as the basis for her theory. She only ever had a modern translated version of this (well this is all anybody has seen). The other items ie map etc are only modern copies. No originals have ever been shown.
 
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A telling point shown in episode 5 was when Marty was asked what he thought they had found that was significant the only two things he came up with were the bone fragments and the lead cross...

That really is not much to show for the millions that they have spent on the search...... It also is a pretty good indication of what he thinks of all the other "relics" discovered.....
 

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