🥇 BANNER AMAZING 1812 WAR AXE WITH MAKERS MARK
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flakefinder
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Congrats on the Banner and for finding a great piece of history...
Michigan Badger
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Nice find for sure. I'm glad to see something like this gained recognition here. I once dug a 18th century French fur trader knife and a large iron musket ball (buried together) and they never made banner. They're both on display today in a private collection.
Extra Note: It is commonly believed that all musket balls were made of lead. This is not correct. The early Spanish used iron balls. In fact the first known gunshot victim in the Americas was an Inca Indian killed by an iron musket ball nearly 500 years ago in Peru. National Geographic has published extensive information in regard to this scientifically proven fact.
Anyway, I'm glad to see these iron objects are finally being noticed.
Well done.
Extra Note: It is commonly believed that all musket balls were made of lead. This is not correct. The early Spanish used iron balls. In fact the first known gunshot victim in the Americas was an Inca Indian killed by an iron musket ball nearly 500 years ago in Peru. National Geographic has published extensive information in regard to this scientifically proven fact.
Anyway, I'm glad to see these iron objects are finally being noticed.
Well done.
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Gunrunner61
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When you say war axe, Exactly what do you mean? I'm sitting here looking at the handle and it looks awfull long for a war axe ( or maybe what i think of as a war axe ) Or are you speaking of a time frame?.....HH
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Exellent axe find.
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Great find my friend very nice axe
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Speechless... just beautiful...
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Definitely an early Broad Ax
I found one in an 1838 fort site, but unidentifyable and not same pattern. I gave it to a museum. Since recovering the ax, to preserve properly is best accomplished with freeze drying. However, this can only be accomplished in a lab-besides, cracks in wood may splinter the handle. The other method is to keep it immersed in distilled water, longer if found in salt or brackish water, changing out the bath continuously. After that, it soak it in melted-warm parafin wax. Remove and dry. Do several dips. Once dry, seal in a satin plastic spray. Same last step spray can be used on the axhead too. Excellent historical find. Note, this can be an imported hardware item from England. However, if made in USA, check for this name in US Govt. patent indexes-available on microfische CSI series at most larger libraries. Either access patent claims for axes, broad axes, hardware or the name itself. Good Luck.
I found one in an 1838 fort site, but unidentifyable and not same pattern. I gave it to a museum. Since recovering the ax, to preserve properly is best accomplished with freeze drying. However, this can only be accomplished in a lab-besides, cracks in wood may splinter the handle. The other method is to keep it immersed in distilled water, longer if found in salt or brackish water, changing out the bath continuously. After that, it soak it in melted-warm parafin wax. Remove and dry. Do several dips. Once dry, seal in a satin plastic spray. Same last step spray can be used on the axhead too. Excellent historical find. Note, this can be an imported hardware item from England. However, if made in USA, check for this name in US Govt. patent indexes-available on microfische CSI series at most larger libraries. Either access patent claims for axes, broad axes, hardware or the name itself. Good Luck.
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Date Please.
We've seen the News clipping which shows that it was made in or before 1812, BUT, the clipping also shows more names than Stone & Ash. This "seems" to suggest that the axe was manufactured prior to (at least) Jacob Roberts becoming a part of the company. I would tend to believe that financial assistance was required. so Roberts (and later Hodgson) bought partnerships in the Co. Personally, if I put out enough cash to have my name at the top of the list, I'd also want my name to join Stone & Ash on the product.
Of course, I'm just speculating here, judging by the way business works in this day and age. (lol)
All in all, I congratulate you on a superb recovery.
Eagle
This find is unusual enough that it warrants a more in-depth dating.
We've seen the News clipping which shows that it was made in or before 1812, BUT, the clipping also shows more names than Stone & Ash. This "seems" to suggest that the axe was manufactured prior to (at least) Jacob Roberts becoming a part of the company. I would tend to believe that financial assistance was required. so Roberts (and later Hodgson) bought partnerships in the Co. Personally, if I put out enough cash to have my name at the top of the list, I'd also want my name to join Stone & Ash on the product.
Of course, I'm just speculating here, judging by the way business works in this day and age. (lol)
All in all, I congratulate you on a superb recovery.
Eagle
