Another Brass Thingy (on a ring) - Also Acorn-shaped (thingy)

[DavidBeard]

Hi Guys,
Dug up a few things in the 'Hexagram' field yesterday. Placing them in 'Todays Finds' shortly.
Couple of things I'm not sure about.
This brass thingy, on a ring - piece of leather still attached, 'Carpenter & Co. Birmingham' in small writing:



And this Acorn-shaped brass thingy - reminds me of the end of a light pull - or a small salt pot:



Any ideas?
Best wishes,
David.

 

[IronSpike]

I'm thinking dagger pommel on the acorn thingy.

 

[AU24K]

Acorn thing is most likely a lamp finial or at least a finial of some sort.
Scott

 

[bangorguy]

hello david i thought this might help you out some. http://www.goantiques.com/detail,antique-carpenter-lock,1128981.html just copy and past the link. the carpenter co. made door knobs and locks in the late 18th century to the early 19th century. hope this helps a bit good luck. ben.

 

[DavidBeard]

Acorn thing is most likely a lamp finial or at least a finial of some sort.
Scott

Thanks Scott,
Yes a Finial of some sort (an old one mind you!! no screw threads on this one).
There are many new, similar on the net:
http://www.bplampsupply.com/product/2476
http://www.bplampsupply.com/product/2483
http://www.bplampsupply.com/product/581
etc.
I wonder how old this one is

 

[briankb70]

thinking old lamp finial here
no idea on the other

 

[IronSpike]

Could the 1st item be a sword hanger?

 

[DavidBeard]

hello david i thought this might help you out some. http://www.goantiques.com/detail,antique-carpenter-lock,1128981.html just copy and past the link. the carpenter co. made door knobs and locks in the late 18th century to the early 19th century. hope this helps a bit good luck. ben.

Hi Ben - just this one to solve now. Doesn't look like part of a lock - and there's the 'Birmingham' bit too. We have a 'Carpenter & Co' here in the UK who are solicitors and because of the bit of leather still attached thought it could be the end of a leather strap with clasp to hold documents together - Just been assured though that the family-run business never had a branch in Birmingham.
The small lip on the end is a perfect 90 deg angle:

does that help?

 

[DavidBeard]

Could the 1st item be a sword hanger?

It hangs well - and thats a fancy bit of gilt work on the loop bent around the ring for it not to be seen!

 

[shaun7]

Could the 1st item be a sword hanger?

It hangs well - and thats a fancy bit of gilt work on the loop bent around the ring for it not to be seen!

Hmmmm

I don't have a clue on that one! The lip doesn't look substantial enough to hang any weight on and there doesn't seem to be any fixing holes.

 

[BuckleBoy]

The loop on the hook is a piece of a suspender clip.


Regards,


Buckleboy

 

[DavidBeard]

...The loop on the hook is a piece of a suspender clip...

Suspender clip as in clothing for keeping stockings up? Pretty uncomfortable with dangerous sharp edges!!! Those poor women!
Thanks.

 

[DavidBeard]

Perhaps that would explain the 'Love-Hearts' then

 

[BuckleBoy]

...The loop on the hook is a piece of a suspender clip...

Suspender clip as in clothing for keeping stockings up? Pretty uncomfortable with dangerous sharp edges!!! Those poor women!
Thanks.

No, a suspender buckle as in furniture for keeping the pants up. The hearts on the piece are decoration commonly found on most suspender clips. Here is a display case I have of just suspender clips/buckles. All of them have an identical hook for the brass ring to be affixed to:



I can't find an exact match for yours, but here is a similar example in the U.S. patent records which shows the ring. There are hundreds of patents. Here's the link if you'd like to peruse them:

http://www.google.com/patents?rview...maxm_is=0&as_maxy_is=1900&num=30&sa=N&start=0




Regards,



Buckles

 

[DavidBeard]

...No, a suspender buckle as in furniture for keeping the pants up...

mmmmm, I think we may have a language barrier here - 'Pants' in the UK are the undergarment we wear under our trousers (well, some of us wear them)
What are 'pants' in furniture? Sorry mate.
David.

 

[CRUSADER]

...No, a suspender buckle as in furniture for keeping the pants up...

mmmmm, I think we may have a language barrier here - 'Pants' in the UK are the undergarment we wear under our trousers (well, some of us wear them)
What are 'pants' in furniture? Sorry mate.
David.

furniture is used in many terms like horse furniture etc.. Yes it a piece of metal that holds the trousers up.

The other is a Victorian Finial (bit small for a bed knob but something similar)

 

[BuckleBoy]

...No, a suspender buckle as in furniture for keeping the pants up...

mmmmm, I think we may have a language barrier here - 'Pants' in the UK are the undergarment we wear under our trousers (well, some of us wear them)
What are 'pants' in furniture? Sorry mate.
David.

Then they are suspender buckles were on the suspenders that held the trousers up. Yes, I guess it was a Dialect barrier.


Deutsch ist als besser. Then it might be a language barrier.

 

[bangorguy]

hi david, man i would love to detect in the uk you guys must find some really old things there "coins" i have seen some of the older coins from the uk and it blew me away. they were 1000 years old. it must be very exciting to find coins that old. maybe someday i will get over there and get some detecting in. "god bless" ben.

 

[Dark Chameleon]

Hi BuckleBoy, yes, its been a while since this post but i was wondering what the suspender buckle is called in your collection picture, the second from the left on the top line?.

I have one with the teeth still intact and would love to know the name of it for my next metal detecting club meet...i have the picture of it on picassa under the name wide mouth suspender clip for you to see...its a nice find that i located on the grounds of a museum that was a former house with stables in massachusetts, i hope you can help me because 1200 pages of google patents are daunting at best

 

[kuger]

The loop on the hook is a piece of a suspender clip.


Regards,


Buckleboy

Bingo!!
LOL!Didnt realize it was an old post!!