Another Not So Obvious Question

[ConceptualizedNetherlandr]

Here's a loaded question for you.......

Can anyone show any verifiable evidence that directly confirms the narration to be fiction? Just saying, to proceed in truly unbiased and informed debate one must weigh equally both sides of that ever-looming debate. So I choose to leave the door open to any reasonable explanation and I still entertain both sides, often supporting both when those sides remain reasonable.

Proving a negative? I'll get right on that ... but first there might be a teapot orbiting somewhere out there that needs to be attended to ...I'll ask my bud Russell

 

[bigscoop]

Proving a negative? I'll get right on that ... but first there might be a teapot orbiting somewhere out there that needs to be attended to ...I'll ask my bud Russell

That's sort of my point. However, it's not beyond possible that there could exist something, say in the form of an old letter, for instance, that could possibly confirm the story to be just a fictional writing. I'm not holding my breath that such confirmation will ever show up.

 

[bigscoop]

Maybe Jackson Ward Alderman Thomas J Beale hadn't finished writing the dime novel when asking James Beverly Ward to act as copyright agent!

I wonder if back in the day if the copyrighting of just titles was all that uncommon? Might be worth some research to find out.
Also too, I wonder if legal concerns might have also held some influence in the copyrighting of just the tile? Again, might be worth a bit of research to find out.

 

[ECS]

That's sort of my point. However, it's not beyond possible that there could exist something, say in the form of an old letter, for instance, that could possibly confirm the story to be just a fictional writing. I'm not holding my breath that such confirmation will ever show up.

Well, Bigscoop, they are the comments made by Charles W Button, Vincent A Witcher, Roland Buford, Margaret Buford, and Ann Buford Hall, all contemporary with the 1885 publication and sale of the Beale Papers job pamphlet.
...and what became of the unsold copies after the families of Witcher, Coles, and Clay complained about the use of their ancestor's name to give credibility to a dime novel story?
That in itself confirms something, Bigscoop.

 

[bigscoop]

Well, Bigscoop, they are the comments made by Charles W Button, Vincent A Witcher, Roland Buford, Margaret Buford, and Ann Buford Hall, all contemporary with the 1885 publication and sale of the Beale Papers job pamphlet.
...and what became of the unsold copies after the families of Witcher, Coles, and Clay complained about the use of their ancestor's name to give credibility to a dime novel story?
That in itself confirms something, Bigscoop.

Well ECS, all of those "personal thoughts" or "personal opinions" or "personal feelings" confirms/verifies absolutely nothing as to the true nature/source of the story, absolutely nothing at all. Truth is simply that they present speculate opinions, and that's all. Is this directly connecting confirmation/verification to you? Perhaps, but it isn't to me, it's just more secondhand and uncertain opinion, certainly nothing that's going to convict anyone.

 

[ECS]

Don't you think if Beale stayed at Buford's Tavern, it would be a part of that families history, repeated many times over?
Or is this part of a vast coverup that goes back to the Adams-Onis Treaty that involves treasure from Champ d' Asile that was laundered through Girard's opium trade by Lafitte with the goal of freeing Napolean from the British with the help of Patterson's ship TORPEDO , Captained by Mexico Sherman, but the treasure was secured in a vault in Bedford county with a 1823 born of color freeman who became an Alderman in a Ward of Richmond the only person knowing this secret and holding the key.
Sometimes contemporary personal opinions and thoughts hold much more weight than speculative theories 130 years after the fact.

 

[bigscoop]

Don't you think if Beale stayed at Buford's Tavern, it would be a part of that families history, repeated many times over?

I have no idea, I wasn't alive back then or present in the region during that period, didn't know those families or of their business affairs first hand. Didn't know Morriss, or the alleged Beale either, and I never stayed at Morriss' place of business, etc., etc. You tell me exactly/precisely how things were.

 

[Rebel - KGC]

Well, there are MANY books, articles, etc. of REAL Bedford County HISTORY of the Bufords, Wards, etc. NOTHING on TJB (aka Thomas Jefferson Beale, or ANY Beal, Beall, etc.) connected to the Bufords, Wards, etc. There IS an up-coming Genealogy Fair coming up in September (10th), at the Bedford CVCC Campus, if anyone wants REAL info on families. 12th Annual Bedford Genealogy Fair www.bedfordgensociety.org HH! Good Luck!

 

[Rebel - KGC]

Try Bedford Genealogical Society, Inc.