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[diggummup]

I am trying to track down who these people were and/or if they are still alive.

It reads; Mrs. Julius Schmid
and
Mr. Harry Joseph King
announce their marriage
(in script) Sat. Oct. 19, 1968 Washington D.C.

Anybody?

 

[HutSiteDigger]

Mark1985 dug this ID ring the other day it is on Banner finds (1st picture) click on that and find the two or three members who were able too pull up pictures of the civil war soldier that was on the ring. I think they will be able to help you if know one here can find it.

 

[Breezie]

What I find strange about their wedding invitation is her name; Mrs. Julius Schmid 'Mrs.' and her x-husband's name instead of Miss Jane Doe or Jane Doe.

I know this is probably not her husband, but found this somewhat amusing:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_Schmid

I'm not a member of ancestry. com anymore, but I know there are several people who are. Hut is right. I saw several people on the ring banner who were using ancestry.com

Neat find
Breezie

 

[ClovisOak]

I was thinking the same thing that Breezie noticed about the name and the funny history on what Julius Schmid invented! My gut tells me two seniors marrying with the Mrs. honoring her deceased husband. A Julius Schmid also was a major artist in Europe during the 1800's through turn of the century. Most likely a long shot but Julius is kind of a not so common name. Found a Julius King DDS 202-726-3033 in Washington DC.
Good Luck

 

[DizzyDigger]

Here is another interesting link about Julius Schmidt, and according to the info, he married
a lady and then the emigrated to NYC in the late 1800's.

INFO

 

[diggummup]

Thanks for the replies so far. The first thing I noticed was the married name of the bride to be. I took that the same as ClovisOak, her being a widow and the marrying couple maybe being older in age. However, Julius Schmid the condom maker, was 90 when he died in 1955. Even if she was 20 years younger than him, she would have been 83 years old in 1968. Stranger things have happened I guess but i'm doubting it's the same person. Juius Schmid the artist was even older. I really need someone with access to Ancestry.com or the like for this one I believe.

The engraving is on a Tiffany & Co. sterling box.

 

[Breezie]

Dig, I agree with you; I never thought the condom maker was her husband, but found it somewhat amusing the names were the same. I didn't realize it was by Tiffany; it's a VERY HIGH DOLLAR box. It might be a long shot, but Tiffany might have a record of who bought it since it was engraved. Did you dig this or find it in a shop?

I don't know if this website will be helpful or not, but here goes:


http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/f...&GSdy=&GScntry=4&GSst=0&GSgrid=&df=all&GSob=n


Breezie

 

[Breezie]

Since I use to be a member of Ancestry. com, I was able to access my account. It allowed me to search, but would not allow me to do an advanced search. I searched under MARRIAGES, and used his full name Harry Joseph King, and the exact date. I put in Julius Schmid as one of the 'key words.' There is not a marriage license listed for Harry Joseph or Harry J. King for October 19, 1968. I'm wondering if Tiffany made up the names/date/etc. to use as a display?

View attachment 770371

 

[Bramblefind]

Julius Schmid had two sons that took over the business when he died - I show he died in June 6, 1939 (maybe I need to correct Wikipedia )

One son was Julius Jr. and he died in 1960. I have found a reference that he had no children and his widow's name was Hazel. She was born about 1902. So she is a possibility to be your Mrs. Julius Schmid but I haven't been able to make the firm connection so it might be someone else ....

 

[Breezie]

Julius Schmid had two sons that took over the business when he died - I show he died in June 6, 1939 (maybe I need to correct Wikipedia )

One son was Julius Jr. and he died in 1960. I have found a reference that he had no children and his widow's name was Hazel. She was born about 1902. So she is a possibility to be your Mrs. Julius Schmid but I haven't been able to make the firm connection so it might be someone else ....

Good job Bramble! Were you able to find a marriage certificate for Harry Joseph King on that date in DC?

Breezie

 

[Bramblefind]

Good job Bramble! Were you able to find a marriage certificate for Harry Joseph King on that date in DC?

Breezie

Hi Breezie No - but the index I've found for DC only goes up to around 1950 - I think (I checked last night).

I have found lots of travel records for Julius and Hazel. And one does list her as "Hazel Marie Schmid" but that's about all I have.

 

[Bramblefind]

It's her! I found a Family Tree reference using her actual birthdate from the travel records (June 28, 1900)- don't know if the link will work for non-members.

Ancestry.com

but here are some of the details-

Timeline
Birth
1900
28 Jun
New York, New York
Long Island City, New York on 1948 passenger roster
12 source citations
Residence
1910
Age: 10
Queens Ward 3, Queens, New York
1 source citation
Residence
1915
1 Jun
Age: 14
Hamptonburgh, Orange, New York, United States
1 source citation
Residence
1920
Age: 20
Hamptonburgh, Orange, New York
1 source citation
Marriage to Carl Julius Schmid Jr
1923
abt
Age: 23
New York, USA
Residence
1925
1 Jun
Age: 24
New York, Queens, New York, United States
1 source citation
Residence
1930
Age: 30
Queens, Queens, New York
1 source citation
Arrival
1939
30 Jan
Age: 38
New York, New York
1 source citation
Departure
1939
Age: 39
Balboa, Canal Zone, Panama
Passenger List
1 source citation
Residence
1940
1 Apr
Age: 39
Buffalo, Erie, New York, United States
1 source citation
Residence
1947
abt
Age: 47
1 source citation
Arrival
1948
23 Feb
Age: 47
New York, New York
Argentina to United States
1 source citation
Departure
1948
Age: 48
Santos, Brazil
With husband Julius Schmid, Jr
1 source citation
Departure
1950
13 Oct
Age: 50
Los Angeles, California
1 source citation
Arrival
1950
18 Oct
Age: 50
Honolulu, Hawaii
1 source citation
Departure
1950
11 Nov
Age: 50
Cruise ship to Hawaii
1 source citation
Marriage to Harry Joseph King (Gonslaves)
1969
Age: 69
Washington, District of Columbia, United States of America
Death
1991
17 Jul
Age: 91
Washington, District of Columbia, District of Columbia, USA
1 source citation

 

[Bramblefind]

Oh and there is a photo too -

 

[DCMatt]

diggummup,

If you find family in the DC area and need a contact point, I will be happy to help.

DCMatt

 

[diggummup]

Thank you Bramblefind. Your a gentleman and a scholar. I appreciate the help. I had a feeling that they had both already passed. I was wondering if they had any children. It appears not. Any idea what the (Gonsalves) name is about? Link doesn't work unless your a member.

Breezie, This box was purchased at a local thrift store years ago by my brother in law. It's been in a box for 15 years or so, packed away in a storage unit. He gave it to me to see what I can come up with in terms of selling it for him. I saw the engraving and was curious as to who it originally belonged to and where they are now.

DCMatt- Thanks. Now I know what the DC stands for. lol. I was raised in PG county and Fairfax county myself. Good times!

 

[Bramblefind]

Happy to help It was lucky there was the tree posted with so much info. Neither Harry or Hazel have any children listed. Here is some of the details about Harry w/ an entry about the name change too.

And I'm female btw... just didn't want to leave the "gentleman" title hanging out there Thank you though!

________________________

Harry Joseph King (Gonslaves)
Birth 31 MAR 1912 in Eden Twp., Hayward, Alameda Co., CA, USA
Death 31 DEC 1997 in Washington, District of Columbia, USA

1912
31 Mar
Eden Twp., Hayward, Alameda Co., CA, USA
7 source citations
Residence
1920
Age: 8
Eden, Alameda, California
1 source citation
Residence
1920
Age: 8
Eden, Alameda, CA, USA
1 source citation
Residence
1930
Age: 18
Hayward, Alameda, California
1 source citation
Residence
1930
Age: 18
Hayward, Alameda, California
1 source citation
Departure
1938
29 Sep
Age: 26
San Francisco, California
1 source citation
Arrival
1938
5 Oct
Age: 26
Honolulu, Hawaii
1 source citation
Residence
1940
1 Apr
Age: 28
Honolulu, Honolulu, Hawaii, United States
1 source citation
Legal Name Change
1940
Age: 28
United States of America
Last name changed from Gonsalves to King: Older sister Josephine married a man named King and due to the prejudices of the day brothers Harry & Albert thought it best to have a less ethnic name for business purposes.
Military
1942
- 1945
Age: 30
Pearl Harbor, Honolulu, Hawaii, USA
Served ~ Chief Storekeeper ~ United States Navy ~ Honorable Discharge ~ Separation Cebter U.S.N. Personnel Staging Center, Pearl Harbor ~ Honorable Discharge on October 11th 1945
Marriage to Patricia
1944
abt
Age: 32
Honolulu, Honolulu, Hawaii, USA
Departure
1948
24 May
Age: 36
San Francisco, California
1 source citation
Arrival
1948
29 May
Age: 36
Honolulu, Hawaii
1 source citation
Marriage to Hazel Marie Hutchison
1969
Age: 57
Washington, District of Columbia, United States of America
Residence
1993
Age: 81
Washington, DC
1 source citation
Death
1997
31 Dec
Age: 85
Washington, District of Columbia, USA
1 source citation

 

[Breezie]

Great work Bramble! Way to go!

So according to Ancestry.com, they got married in 1969 instead of 1968. They look like a sweet lil' ole couple. Breezie

 

[diggummup]

Happy to help It was lucky there was the tree posted with so much info. Neither Harry or Hazel have any children listed. Here is some of the details about Harry w/ an entry about the name change too.

And I'm female btw... just didn't want to leave the "gentleman" title hanging out there Thank you though!

Thanks for the added information about the name change, interesting.

As for the latter...I remember that now! Sorry

 

[diggummup]

Great work Bramble! Way to go!

So according to Ancestry.com, they got married in 1969 instead of 1968. They look like a sweet lil' ole couple. Breezie

Washington D.C., late October, ehh... pretty good for DC standards, only off by a couple months or so. Yes they do look like a sweet ole couple. She was almost 12 years his senior too.

 

[ClovisOak]

Great work by all to give this expensive little box some life. Likely relative also from Alameda was a Medal of Honor recipient.
Harold Gonsalves - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia