anyone good at IDing German medals?

[yellow1053]

anyone good at ID'ing German medals?

this medal has two dates on it and no denomination, so I know it's not currency, but I can't find it anywhere on the net. anybody recognize it?
thanks.
Jim.

 

[creskol]

Re: anyone good at ID'ing German medals?

says something about Carl Ludwig and Carl Philipp being of the land

 

[taz42o]

Re: anyone good at ID'ing German medals?

http://www.hydroponicsonline.com/st...ILVER-SOUVENIR-COIN-SPOON-2_260401722110.html

 

[Mackaydon]

Re: anyone good at ID'ing German medals?

Here's your medallian:

http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=663795&AucID=485&Lot=2525&Match=

Note that both Lots 2525 and Lot 1749 (immediately below lot 2525--click on: "Show lots similar to this one.") seem to reflect the same medallion. One has an est. value of 300 euros and the other--500 !!! Lot 1749 may be of a later issue.
Either way, it appears you have a real winner. Congrats!!
Don....

 

[Mackaydon]

Re: anyone good at ID'ing German medals?

Here's one for sale for 570 Euros:
http://www.muenzauktion.com/pkkmgbr...en&PHPSESSID=99f053893da60caee5010db5b8256923

The image shows a wine barrel in Heidelberg Castle. Somewhere I read it holds 49,000 gallons of wine.
Don....

http://translate.google.com/transla...9Fen+Fasses+in+Heidelberg&hl=en&sa=G&ie=UTF-8

 

[72cheyenne]

Re: anyone good at ID'ing German medals?

Here's your medallian:

http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=663795&AucID=485&Lot=2525&Match=

Note that both Lots 2525 and Lot 1749 (immediately below lot 2525--click on: "Show lots similar to this one.") seem to reflect the same medallion. One has an est. value of 300 euros and the other--500 !!! Lot 1749 may be of a later issue.
Either way, it appears you have a real winner. Congrats!!
Don....

Here's one for sale for 570 Euros:
http://www.muenzauktion.com/pkkmgbr...en&PHPSESSID=99f053893da60caee5010db5b8256923

The image shows a wine barrel in Heidelberg Castle. Somewhere I read it holds 49,000 gallons of wine.
Don....

http://translate.google.com/transla...9Fen+Fasses+in+Heidelberg&hl=en&sa=G&ie=UTF-8

The only difference I can see is the links don't show the two "ovals" at the bottom of the token on the reverse.

 

[Mackaydon]

Re: anyone good at ID'ing German medals?

Looks like the wording and the date on the reverse are also different.
More research.....

 

[RELICDUDE07]

Re: anyone good at ID'ing German medals?

http://images.google.com/imgres?img...&rlz=1T4ADBF_enUS319US319&sa=N&start=100&um=1 search on this site german 1716

 

[yellow1053]

Re: anyone good at ID'ing German medals?

http://images.google.com/imgres?img...&rlz=1T4ADBF_enUS319US319&sa=N&start=100&um=1 search on this site german 1716

Wow! that's it, thanks! I'm not entirely sure mine is silver however, it could be a repro I suppose. I'll have to test it. I would say this is solved.
Jim.

 

[Mackaydon]

Re: anyone good at ID'ing German medals?

Good catch!!

Lot number: 1074
Price realized: 350 USD Note: Prices do not include buyer's fees.
Lot description:

GERMANY. PFALZ-HEIDELBERG. Elector Karl Philipp Accession Medal, 1716.

Silver, 33.6mm, 14.36 grams. Goppel 2141 car. Obv. Great Tun of Heidelberg, built 1664, largest wine storage vessel in the world, holding 204 Fuder, approximately 8,000 liters. Rev. Rhyming accession inscription. About Uncirculated.

 

[yellow1053]

Re: anyone good at ID'ing German medals?

http://images.google.com/imgres?img...&rlz=1T4ADBF_enUS319US319&sa=N&start=100&um=1 search on this site german 1716

Wow! that's it, thanks! I'm not entirely sure mine is silver however, it could be a repro I suppose. I'll have to test it. I would say this is solved.
Jim.

Well, the mystery continues. it is NOT silver, nor is it to the specs in this most recent post from the auction. I don't know how to get the size on the coin, but it is about the size of a quarter, and the weight is only 7.8 grams. also, it appears to be bronze, or nickel silver by looking at a nick that was on one of the edges. hmmmmm?

 

[Mackaydon]

Re: anyone good at ID'ing German medals?

Then possibly a souvenir from the Heidelberg Castle, representing a replica of the real medallion.

 

[CRUSADER]

Re: anyone good at ID'ing German medals?

Then possibly a souvenir from the Heidelberg Castle, representing a replica of the real medallion.

Most likely a copper-alloy version, this is typical for this type of issue. Make an expensive Silver or Gold Version & various copper or bronze types. Hits different markets at the same time.

 

[yellow1053]

Re: anyone good at ID'ing German medals?

Then possibly a souvenir from the Heidelberg Castle, representing a replica of the real medallion.

Most likely a copper-alloy version, this is typical for this type of issue. Make an expensive Silver or Gold Version & various copper or bronze types. Hits different markets at the same time.

so most likely no real value?

 

[Mackaydon]

Re: anyone good at ID'ing German medals?

Always conversational and educational values.

 

[CRUSADER]

Re: anyone good at ID'ing German medals?

Then possibly a souvenir from the Heidelberg Castle, representing a replica of the real medallion.

Most likely a copper-alloy version, this is typical for this type of issue. Make an expensive Silver or Gold Version & various copper or bronze types. Hits different markets at the same time.

so most likely no real value?

$20-$50 maybe

 

[yellow1053]

Re: anyone good at ID'ing German medals?

Then possibly a souvenir from the Heidelberg Castle, representing a replica of the real medallion.

Most likely a copper-alloy version, this is typical for this type of issue. Make an expensive Silver or Gold Version & various copper or bronze types. Hits different markets at the same time.

so most likely no real value?

$20-$50 maybe

Better than a sharp stick in the eye I guess.