Apache of the Superstitions

cactusjumper said:
Just as a side note here, Native Americans domesticated the turkey around 2,000 years ago.

Joe Ribaudo
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Joe

I think you might be wrong, I believe Double Jack told me they did.:laughing7:

But If the US attacked Turkey from the rear, do you think Greece would help!:headbang:

Wrmickel1
 

This close to Thanksgiving and everyone talking about greece and turkey makes me want to fry a bird right now. French fries also impropely named because they were concieved in greece
 

Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp said:
Wrmickle, Scott, sheesh, drink yer coffee while it is still hot. Next you will be talking about Dakotian cowboys and their sheep.:tongue3::tongue3::laughing7:

Don - sheltered - Jose de La Mancha
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Tramp

Some ride mules and up here we ride sheep!:laughing7:

What do you call a Dakotian truck driver with a load of sheep.

A PIMP!:headbang:

Wrmickel1
 

Mmmm
Maybe she just wants to give you a haircut....:laughing7:... Donald.
 

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???? you don't like girls PIPIWP ?? How about mules?

If'n one of my ancestors hadn't been expecting a long cold winter and she wasn't so damn cute, I would never have gotten a bit of Mohican in my DNA.

So frankly, I kind alike cute injun gals.

Don Jose de La Mancha
 

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Why pipiwp?? a broad is a broad no? As for mules, they will even share their saddle blanket to keep you warm, while a broad wants' yours saying that two blankets, and two people together keeps you even warmer --< sneaky and tricky no???

Why would two blankets and snuggling keep you warm:dontknow::icon_scratch: Don Jose de La Mancha
 

Don,

I didn't figure you to be squawphobic, how bad could she be? Next time you see her, blow her a kiss for me.

Homar
 

Hi Homar, Me 'broad phobic' ?? never, love the lords work done 'just for me'. sigh,, They come in many colors sizes and shapes. Ya shoulda seen what I had in ole Peking, the Philipines, Japan, or now in Mexico.-- The US also.sigh.:notworthy::tongue3:

Don Jose de La Mancha

P'S' got mixed up on the 'Don' Homar sorry, cuppa coffee acceptable as an apology ? kneeling tugging my forelock in penitence.
 

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The fight for Oak Flat, the Resolution Copper land swap still goes on. Thanks to Sandy Rambler and Gladys Hinton and the Apache moccasin of the San Carlos Apache tribe for contributing to the following update.

On Nov. 13, Arizona Congressman, Paul Gosar (R-CD 4), was forced to pull H.R. 687 from the floor of the House of Representatives with a ā€œno voteā€ for the second time on the Southeast Arizona Land Exchange Bill, which includes Chiā€™Chilā€™Bagoteel (Oak Flat), an area considered sacred by the San Carlos Apache.

For the past eight years, the San Carlos Apache Tribe has passed tribal resolutions, coupled with the National Congress of American Indians opposing the construction of the Resolution copper mine just a few miles away from the western boundary line within the Gilson Wash District on the San Carlos Apache Reservation.

Traditional and holy ceremonies have been held since time immemorial as well as the Apaches gathering herbs, medicine and acorn which is stored for the winter season.

ā€œThis is great news for us,ā€ said tribal elder and spiritual leader, Gladys Hinton, in her native San Carlos Apache language.

ā€œJust last month, we went to Chiā€™Chilā€™Bagoteel for a prayer ceremony to ask our Creator Usen to bless our tribal leaders as they were in Washington, D.C. fighting against this bill that would destroy land that is sacred and holy to us.ā€

ā€œThat mine would require a lot of water and we donā€™t want anyone tampering with the water because that belongs to us and our future generation. We have already been pushed around and we got struck with this little land that we live on and now the federal government will take more away from us if we just sit back and do nothing about it. Thatā€™s why I speak up and I say my prayers each day. I pray for all of our tribal members because we are more powerful when we stand united.ā€

ā€œWe were so happy when we got a message last month, from our former Tribal Chairman, Wendsler Nosie, Sr., who is now the Peridot District Councilman, when he was able to have President Obama recognize our fight against the land exchange and made contact with him. Now, we are waiting to hear from our tribal leaders, Councilmembers Wendsler Nosie, Sr., Jonathan Kitcheyan and Tribal Chairman, Terry Rambler, as they went to visit with President Obama about the land exchange bill and other issues. Itā€™s really nice to know for me as a tribal elder, that our tribal leaders know our fight against the Resolution Copper Mine to try to do something for what is sacred and holy to us.ā€

ā€œIt tells me that our voices and prayers are heard. We, the Apaches, we are fighters and we donā€™t give up, we fight to the end. I pray for each of our Tribal Council and the Vice-Chairman and our Chairman because they represent us.ā€

During last week, various tribal leaders were in Washington, D.C. for a Tribal Leaders Summit which includes over 560 federally-recognized tribes in the Country that lobbied with their congressional leaders assisting the San Carlos Apache Tribal leaders in their efforts to have the bill pulled off the floor.

In an editorial by the Eastern Arizona Courier from Safford, posted on Oct. 16, read, ā€œLately, we find it hard to argue against the San Carlos Apache Tribe when it comes to land. But we can say that the treatment of Native Americans throughout the history of the United States has been deplorable. Weā€™ve removed hundreds of thousands of people from their homelands, placed them on reservations, taken away those reservations (because of oil and other minerals) and moved them to even worse places, all in the name of ā€˜progress. Weā€™ve created a population of a million people dependent on the federal government for sustenance, whose only hope of progress is profits from legalized gaming, which statistics show can bring higher crime and addictions to gambling, alcohol and other substances. The greatest nation on the Earth has not acted great when it comes to its first inhabitants.ā€

Gladys Hinton, ā€œWhen it comes to threatening to take what is holy and sacred to us, including our water, we wonā€™t let that happen. For as long as I am here, I will continue to stand up for what I believe, what I was taught while I was growing up from our elders and speak up about it. My father, the late Jeff Longstreet, was an Apache Mountain Spirit Dancer and their spirits dwell within Chiā€™Chilā€™Bagoteel as well as on top of our other sacred mountains like Dzil Nchaa Si An . And the Apaches just donā€™t give up, we are well known for that. Arizona Congressman, Paul Gosar and Arizona Congresswoman, Ann Kirkpatrick who keep introducing the same bill should know we will never give up.ā€
 

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