Are LRLs More Than Just Dowsing?

[EE THr]

Well, to keep from getting the boot, and since you haven't added anything but argument to the thread, looks like you are going to join Goober. Congrats. you are #2 Good luck with that transference thing.

fenix(es)---

So, since you have been trying to divert from the real topic, using childish ad hominem attacks on those who question your Science Fiction claims, and have been precisely adhering to the Predictable Pattern of Con Artists list (whose fault is that? ), post after self-incriminating post, and never answering any direct questions that are put to you; I think it is safe to proclaim that LRLs are nothing more than fraudulent "dowsing enhancers," at best.

Thank you, very much for your corroboration of my conclusion. You have, although apparently unwittingly, been a great help to honest and sane people everywhere who think that Con Artists suck.

Have a great day.







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[fenixdigger]

Are LRLs more than just dowsing

Mine are. How? When they are off or tuned wrong, you will not get a response. Why? The LRLs that use "frequency" are imitating the target. Once the "connection" is made between target and source, it then becomes a "dowsing rod as it is following a path to the other end of the "line"

If they are not close to a mirror image, no lock to a sample or a target.

 

[EE THr]

Yes you follow your pattern very good…You make a statement then refer us to your insult page.. Are LRLs More Than Just Dowsing? Looks to me like you need to cover you lack of proof with made up Claims made by you..
Could you please tell us just how owning and operating a LRL makes us Con-artist

artie---

No, it's not an insults page, it's a truth page.

I only refer you to it, when you do things that Con Artists do.

If you would stop doing those things, and just communicate, then I couldn't refer to those things.

But if you continue to do the things that Con Artists do, then my reply must be to either type out a long explanation of why you are acting like a Con Artist each time you do it, or to simply refer to the Predictable Pattern of Con Artists page. Since it is much quicker and easier for me to just refer you to that page, and since it takes up less space in the post, then that is what I will always do.

So, if you choose to not stop acting like a Con Artist, who's fault is that? Not mine, that's for sure! So, you see, it's up to you.

While it's not up to those contesting your claims, to provide proof, there have been people familiar with electronics who have shown convincing evidence that LRLs won't work. But instead of showing them that your claims are true, by proving that your LRL does work, you have merely resorted to insults. that is improper, in any situation.

P.S. I never said that just owning an LRL makes anyone a Con Artist. You know that. I have asked you before to quit making up stuff and saying that I said it. It is childish, and paints you as a liar.

 

[aarthrj3811]

No, it's not an insults page, it's a truth page.

Are LRLs More Than Just Dowsing?

I only refer you to it, when you do things that Con Artists do.

Tell the truth

But if you continue to do the things that Con Artists do, then my reply must be to either type out a long explanation of why you are acting like a Con Artist each time you do it, or to simply refer to the Predictable Pattern of Con Artists page. Since it is much quicker and easier for me to just refer you to that page, and since it takes up less space in the post, then that is what I will always do.

No it is not…It gives you an excuse to insult all treasure hunters.

P.S. I never said that just owning an LRL makes anyone a Con Artist. You know that. I have asked you before to quit making up stuff and saying that I said it. It is childish, and paints you as a liar.

Yes it does

 

[EE THr]

artie---

And now back to the topic.

How can you say that LRLs are more than dowsers, when you have admitted that the device cannot move the pointer by itself?

 

[aarthrj3811]

~LT~

Are LRLs more than just dowsing
Mine are. How? When they are off or tuned wrong, you will not get a response. Why? The LRLs that use "frequency" are imitating the target. Once the "connection" is made between target and source, it then becomes a "dowsing rod as it is following a path to the other end of the "line"
If they are not close to a mirror image, no lock to a sample or a target.

On this subject LT and I have agreed to dis-agree…I agree that when I locate a target line I follow the signal to the target using the same method I use while dowsing..But..I am following a man made signal that goes to the target and not a natural signal emitted by the target..Art

 

[EE THr]

I am following a man made signal that goes to the target and not a natural signal emitted by the target..Art

artie---

That would be nice, except that there is no signal emitted from an LRL!

The maximum distance that even the "signal generator chip" type could (accidentally) emit is about six inches.

So, your reasoning is unreasonable.

Try again?

 

[aarthrj3811]

That would be nice, except that there is no signal emitted from an LRL!

Could you please give us a sourse for this claim?

The maximum distance that even the "signal generator chip" type could (accidentally) emit is about six inches

http://schemecircuit.com/circuit/signal-generator-chip/
Unorthodox warning alarm circuit presented here is infact a single chip based general purpose sounder, which produces a pulsed alert tone when its input receives a valid trigger signal. The circuit can be easily interfaced with a number of electronic gadgets and sensors and it requires only 12V dc supply input for proper working..

Please tell us which Treasure Hunting devices use this chip ?

 

[fenixdigger]

Art;

You are correct. With the LRL, it is giving the appearance or frequency of the intended target( man made) and we follow the "line" to the end.

When I dowse, I use a sample (witness) and a control (2nd sample) and follow the line to the other end.

I wasn't very clear on this. When the LRL no longer mimics the target, nothing. Dowsing is simply looking for the NATURAL line
without any man made support. I don't see where people are having a problem with this. A dowsing rod has no chance of depth,
size, and distance settings.

Sometimes I'll switch to the LRL and use the two samples as control. Then I can check the size and depth, they are the most important.

 

[aarthrj3811]

~fenixdigger`v~

I wasn't very clear on this. When the LRL no longer mimics the target, nothing. Dowsing is simply looking for the NATURAL line
without any man made support. I don't see where people are having a problem with this. A dowsing rod has no chance of depth,
size, and distance settings.

That is correct but I wonder if any one other than LRL users will understand any thing so simple..
Art

 

[aarthrj3811]

~SWR~
six inches...you're to generous. two inches max on the test bench, with no noise in the air

Could you please point us in the direction of this claim ?

 

[EE THr]

That would be nice, except that there is no signal emitted from an LRL!

Could you please give us a sourse for this claim?

A signal generator chip, by itself, which is what those LRL which incorporate them are, is not built to, and does not, "transmit." Look it up in the specifications sheets for those that are in those types of LRLs, and see for yourself.

The maximum distance that even the "signal generator chip" type could (accidentally) emit is about six inches

http://schemecircuit.com/circuit/signal-generator-chip/
Unorthodox warning alarm circuit presented here is infact a single chip based general purpose sounder, which produces a pulsed alert tone when its input receives a valid trigger signal. The circuit can be easily interfaced with a number of electronic gadgets and sensors and it requires only 12V dc supply input for proper working..

Please tell us which Treasure Hunting devices use this chip ?

Where did I say that that particular chip was used in an LRL? It's being used there in a "sounder" device, not a transmitting device, and as such is totally irrelevant! This is yet another Straw Man diversion on your part. When will you change your ways? This shows that you haven't so far, just as I predicted for the typical Con Artist, in the link below. And who's fault is that?





Don't be a doof---show the proof!
P.S. When will you man-up and take Carl's test?
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[EE THr]

As of today, no LRL promoter has given any kind of substantial proof that an LRL is any better than a couple of bent coathangers or a forked twig.

When questioned about obvious weak points in the legitimacy of their devices, all they ever do is avoid giving straight answers. Either by insulting the challenger, or just giving nonsensical answers.

So, the verdict is in: LRLs are not anything more than high priced dowsers.






Don't be a doof---show the proof!
P.S. When will you man-up and take Carl's double-blind test, and collect the $25,000.00?
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[EE THr]

While I don't claim to have so much knowledge that I have an ability to judge, I will say that I can use the same method of forming opinions that I do with artwork---I know what I like.

Your "verdict" has been overthrown. The jury has found you incompetent by your own admission.

How would you have any idea if LRLs are anything more than dowsing or not?

You are not knowledgeable in either electronics or LRL pseudotheory, so why are you even on this thread?


Anyway, there is a difference between opinion and Science.







Don't be a doof---show the proof!
P.S. When will you man-up and take Carl's double-blind test, and collect the $25,000.00?
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[aarthrj3811]

~EE THr~

How would you have any idea if LRLs are anything more than dowsing or not?
You are not knowledgeable in either electronics or LRL pseudotheory, so why are you even on this thread?
Anyway, there is a difference between opinion and Science.

Good question..Where can the proof be found that LRL’s are just expensive Dowsing Rods?..Art

 

[EE THr]

~EE THr~

How would you have any idea if LRLs are anything more than dowsing or not?
You are not knowledgeable in either electronics or LRL pseudotheory, so why are you even on this thread?
Anyway, there is a difference between opinion and Science.

Good question..Where can the proof be found that LRL’s are just expensive Dowsing Rods?..Art

That's easy!

The proof is in the links below, and always has been!



Don't be a doof---show the proof!
P.S. When will you man-up and take Carl's double-blind test?
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[aarthrj3811]

The proof is in the links below, and always has been!

So all the proof you have can be found on you personal thread at http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,387205.msg2752130.html#msg2752130
And Carl’s personal web site at http://www.geotech1.com/cgi-bin/pages/common/index.pl?page=lrl&file=reward.dat

Why should anyone believe these two con-artist ?

 

[fenixdigger]

So maybe one of these whizz kids will take the Sho-Nuff test. Heck I'll even send them the paper towels and silver quarters if they can't afford them.

That's right, I offer a simple test and then offer to fund it. Who could refuse that offer?

I'll make a Guess. (Actually I'm not guessing, the psychosis profile demands a certain, or lack of, responses). Watch what happens.

 

[EE THr]

So maybe one of these whizz kids will take the Sho-Nuff test. Heck I'll even send them the paper towels and silver quarters if they can't afford them.

That's right, I offer a simple test and then offer to fund it. Who could refuse that offer?

I'll make a Guess. (Actually I'm not guessing, the psychosis profile demands a certain, or lack of, responses). Watch what happens.

What are you proposing to test?

 

[EE THr]

The proof is in the links below, and always has been!

So all the proof you have can be found on you personal thread at http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,387205.msg2752130.html#msg2752130
And Carl’s personal web site at http://www.geotech1.com/cgi-bin/pages/common/index.pl?page=lrl&file=reward.dat

Why should anyone believe these two con-artist ?

Con Artists make money from fraud.

We don't commit fraud.

And we don't make money from exposing your fraud, either.

So, artie, you are wrong, once again.

Why not just take the double-blind test, and prove yourself?





Don't be a doof---show the proof!
P.S. When will you man-up and take Carl's double-blind test, and collect the $25,000.00?
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