Are these tools or flakes??

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Thank you all for your info, I know the old saying the picture doesn't do justice, I was wanting to know if they would be worth taking to museum to get looked at. and thank you wish I would have found treasurenet sooner, what a great site with people with great knowledge.
 

All were found within 20 yards of each other, in soft red stopsoil on 800 acre farm, not in a creek or a hayfield but under group of trees in middle of property.
 

Maybe a thumb nail scraper in there ..... But for the most part like the others said probably just waste material,... Which ain't all that bad.... I'd keep going to that spot gotta be one close by

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Just seen the other pics.. definitely a good one around there.... Might one to try digging if there were all in one spot... I don't have the patience to dig but some people on here have a lot of luck digging

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1st photo, 3rd row down, 2nd from left is a nice scraper. Typical of the ones I see here in AZ. At the bottom of the 1st photo there is one ore two more for sure. Hard to tell with the other pieces in that photo.

I agree with you!


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The last set of pics are good ones from what I can see. Now in order to date your finds you will have to find a point in the same location. Its very hard to date tools as to what time frame they are coming from. I think it is legal to dig where you are located at with owners permission. Hope to see you post a point or knife soon, good luck
 

Okay, thank you, I had done a lot of research, but I could have been not reading it right, but the oldest pre Clovis artifacts were found in Austin, tx and they dated them 16,000 years old, and I thought some of my finds resembled them( I know mine aren't 16,000 years old) just got curious
 

Okay, thank you, I had done a lot of research, but I could have been not reading it right, but the oldest pre Clovis artifacts were found in Austin, tx and they dated them 16,000 years old, and I thought some of my finds resembled them( I know mine aren't 16,000 years old) just got curious

Never know like I said you have to find a point or knife which shows the flaking for the age. I find plenty of tools here to
 

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