🔎 UNIDENTIFIED Building age?

[achanceforgold]

I came across an old farmhouse and wanted to see if anyone could approximate the age.
Northern Georgia area.
I'm think house, late 1800's
But barns maybe earlier

Any thoughts?

Building #1

Building #2

Building #3

 

[Gare]

Do you have a better picture of the blocks it is built on ?

 

[ashtonevans]

Take a photo of him by getting very close.

 

[pepperj]

I'd say the view of photo#1
Take the back and front extension off to get a sense of the original structure.
Or at the very least the front was a porch at one time now enclosed.
Early 1800s is very possible.
Another way is to just look up the history of that area being settled.
Granted that some homesteading happened pre the settled version.
Is this a new prospective permission, or one that you have secured?

 

[Mud Hut]

That architectural design is typical of the late 1700s-1840s or thereabouts. Here is one that just sold built in 1839.

 

[pepperj]

I'd say the view of photo#1
Take the back and front extension off to get a sense of the original structure.
Or at the very least the front was a porch at one time now enclosed.
Early 1800s is very possible.
Another way is to just look up the history of that area being settled.
Granted that some homesteading happened pre the settled version.
Is this a new prospective permission, or one that you have secured?

See the similar type with an open porch.
Civil War era construction

 

[Mackaydon]

What's the address of the house?
Don in SoCal

 

[xr7ator]

Per Mackaydon, check the county assessors records to get the year of construction. Public records.

 

[potsherd_creek]

I like old homesteads like that. It is a shame that it is not lived in, is the property on the market? Nice ventilation design on the stump burner if that's what it is

 

[Mackaydon]

Also check the local building department and the planning department for the year built.
To dig deeper, ask the local (city and/or county) Historian for assistance; ask for his contact info at the local library.
Don in SoCal

 

[AU Seeker]

Unfortunately you might not be able to find records or old maps on buildings built before the CW in that area and other southern areas because in many cases all the old records, maps and documents were burnt during "Sherman's march to the sea" in the latter part of the CW, he had a "scorched earth" policy, the northern army burnt any buildings and fields/crops they came across especially public buildings on their march to the sea, i.e. Savannah Georgia, so there were no resources left for the southern army to utilize.

 

[ConceptualizedNetherlandr]

There was a point in time when many municipalities started to require chimneys be built outside of exterior walls.

 

[achanceforgold]

Do you have a better picture of the blocks it is built on ?

I'll try to get some this weekend.
I'll be in that area again

No one lives there. But the state uses the land to store construction equipment.

 

[achanceforgold]

What's the address of the house?
Don in SoCal

No address, the state purchased all the land in 1950's.
A damn was put in in the area and many of the farms were flooded.

From what I can tell, the area is on the very edge of counties.
It was originally part of one county, then ended up in another county.
And finally, another county when the new County was formed in 1871.
Mcduffie County.

I know the original owner of the land from the 1800's
But the original owner had several 10's of thousands of acres.
So, this may not be his home.
The land started to get sold off by the family in the 1840's

 

[achanceforgold]

Unfortunately you might not be able to find records or old maps on buildings built before the CW in that area and other southern areas because in many cases all the old records, maps and documents were burnt during "Sherman's march to the sea" in the latter part of the CW, he had a "scorched earth" policy, the northern army burnt any buildings and fields/crops they came across especially public buildings on their march to the sea, i.e. Savannah Georgia, so there were no resources left for the southern army to utilize.

Correct,
the area changed hands between counties.
The one county, that it is in now didn't form until 1871.
And the area was on Shermans march to the sea.


Down at my town, Blackshear, the entire town burnt down.
All records lost. Only one building left before the fire, built in 1863
My house is the second oldest in town that still survives. 1875

 

[ConceptualizedNetherlandr]

No address, the state purchased all the land in 1950's.
A damn was put in in the area and many of the farms were flooded.

From what I can tell, the area is on the very edge of counties.
It was originally part of one county, then ended up in another county.
And finally, another county when the new County was formed in 1871.
Mcduffie County.

I know the original owner of the land

unlikely. you may know who that was

from the 1800's
But the original owner had several 10's of thousands of acres.
So, this may not be his home.
The land started to get sold off by the family in the 1840's

 

[LauraLou56]

That architectural design is typical of the late 1700s-1840s or thereabouts. Here is one that just sold built in 1839.View attachment 2213943

That front porch is gorgeous!

 

[achanceforgold]

Do you have a better picture of the blocks it is built on ?

here are some pics i obtained this morning.
The porch of the house doesn't look original.
The footing is concrete in that area.
chimney

small shed
quartz

Barn
Quartz

house
old foundation with adding of new Concrete blocks

 

[Almy]

Your photos show many what appear to be recycled building materials, like the bricks, lumber and one big timber with a jointed end that was likely initially in a log building. The use of old materials can make a building difficult to age. I've found barns and houses with the whole frames made from beams from an older structure. In those cases, the building style helped estimate the period in which it was built.

 

[achanceforgold]

Your photos show many what appear to be recycled building materials, like the bricks, lumber and one big timber with a jointed end that was likely initially in a log building. The use of old materials can make a building difficult to age. I've found barns and houses with the whole frames made from beams from an older structure. In those cases, the building style helped estimate the period in which it was built.

Correct, I think the older buildings were reused and modifications since then.

I think Pepperj and Mud Hut have a good date of 1840ish.
This part of the Plantation went to the oldest surviving son around 1842 when his mother died.
He probably built the house from existing buildings on the land.

Trying to figure out the family history is like watching reruns of that old TV show Dallas.
And who shot JR.

JG, Jeremiah Griffin, supposedly shot himself getting off his horse and died.
The eldest surviving son's mistress ended up with all the property and gold mines in the end,
After the eldest surviving son died.
Family members were dropping dead left and right.
Someone could write a tv series.

The mother, nicknamed "Nicey", seamed hold everything together until she died in 1842.
After that, it was who could get over on who.
Out of 8 children, after 1850 only two survived and those two didn't live in the area and had nothing to do with the gold mines or property
Anybody who had anything to do with those gold mines and property ended up dead by 1850, except Phoebe, the Mistress.