Button from France - WWII - or?

[Marc]

A friend recently found this in France..

The back side even has some thread still in it.

It appears to be copper or bronze, and has some weight to it.

Any ideas? It looks older than WWII to me. I haven't a clue what the graphic is (possibly a crown and RC?) or the age.

 

[jeff of pa]

Looks like RC or CR at the Bottom

Other then That, I'll leave it to a Button Expert

 

[DigginThePast]

Yeah, I see a RC or CR with a crown above it and what looks like maybe a lion above that. But I couldn't match it it up.

I'd hit them up over at What Is It.

 

[Marc]

Ah yes! I think I see a lion on top of a crown now too - the lyon facing left.... cool, that should make it a little easier.

It was found at the base of a hill, next to what appears to be a WWII bunker, but the hill also has a Church from the 1200's on it, and who knows what else. It's a promontory on the Med, so any era is possible.

My gut tells me 1700's but really, that's just a wild guess. I would say it was cast for sure.

Thanks!

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

I kinow llittle about European buttons but could this be connected to the Scottish Borderers?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/KINGS-OWN-SCO.../380310588052?pt=UK_Collectables_Militaria_LE

 

[lazooro]

GR

George VI...

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

GR

George VI...

I think its a good possibility Georgius Rex. Looks like a mold mark on the back cast bronze button maybe police or government try here. http://silversimon.piczo.com/?g=41442429&vsrc=search_google&cr=2

 

[Silver Searcher]

Are those clasped hands, beneath the Crown Marc

SS

 

[Marc]

I don't think so, maybe this image will help.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Are those clasped hands, beneath the Crown Marc

SS

That was the first thing I thought of too SS when I saw it reminded me of another post. I dont think it is though. Could it be livery?

 

[Silver Searcher]

I don't think so, maybe this image will help.

No I don't think they are ...weird, I think what ever it is, will be the key to IDing the button, could'nt find anything on UKFD site in the Military Buttons or Public sector, I wonder if it could be some type of Livery Button

SS

 

[Silver Searcher]

Are those clasped hands, beneath the Crown Marc

SS

That was the first thing I thought of too SS when I saw it reminded me of another post. I dont think it is though. Could it be livery?

I think it could be....Cru might have seen it

SS

 

[Marc]

When I look at the button's edge using that macro shot - boy - it sure looks like it COULD be 2 pieces. But what's up with the casting sprue (if that's what it is) on the back?

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

We may want to consider a C small o monogram (for Company) like this unidentified NCo buckle.
Just thinking outside the box because I cant find a GR that looks like this one.

 

[Silver Searcher]

We may want to consider a C small o monogram (for Company) like this unidentified NCo buckle.
Just thinking outside the box because I cant find a GR that looks like this one.

This is the only Button so far I can find, that has the Lion on Crown image

SS

 

[timekiller]

It's very much like the Royal Marines Button here
http://www.survivalaids.com/order1.php?pg=2292
Also alot like the Life Guards sevice button here
http://www.survivalaids.com/order1.php?pg=1134
I'm thinking maybe older maybe Royal Cypher
Take Care,
Pete,

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

It's very much like the Royal Marines Button here
http://www.survivalaids.com/order1.php?pg=2292
Also alot like the Life Guards sevice button here
http://www.survivalaids.com/order1.php?pg=1134
I'm thinking maybe older maybe Royal Cypher
Take Care,
Pete,

Theres an older Life Guards button in the link I posted earlier scroll down 4th row from bottom "Life Guards Regiment KC Kings Crown etc..." but it doesnt have the GR looking thing underneath either. It has a TLC monogram. http://silversimon.piczo.com/?g=41442429&vsrc=search_google&cr=2

 

[Marc]

Hey - That's it!

Thanks guys - not sure about the date - but most likely a Life Guards Service button... after all, it was found a few hundred meters from the sea!

Thanks a bunch!

Marc

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Here is some reading about The Life Guards Regiment but Im not certain thats what you have. http://homepage.ntlworld.com/monza1/lifeguards/index.html

Its the monogram and the wreath like stuff around the perimeter of the button that we cant match.

 

[Marc]

Ok, if someone finds an exact match, I'd love to know... Thanks!