Calling any pottery experts. Something from about 1906-07 at latest.

[dg39]

This was bought new and placed in a large hotel in my home town. The hotel was opened in 1908. The vase and stand was removed in the 1930's and returned to the museum I am director of just recently. It is 102 years old +. There are no marks on it as to the maker. It is two piece and is about 5 feet tall. Any one know who made it? A fantastic work of art!!
DG

 

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[TheDane]

Impressive piece !
I find it very strange, if there are no marks on it at all ??

 

[dg39]

Impressive piece !
I find it very strange, if there are no marks on it at all ??

None what so ever.. And believe you me I have looked everywhere.

 

[TheDane]

Without marks it´s gonna be very difficult, I´m afraid !

 

[dg39]

Without marks it´s gonna be very difficult, I´m afraid !

I know it is American made. One guess would be Roseville. They did use paper labels.
Do not have any early Roseville cataloges.. I do know any item like this commands a very high price ...It seems to be the early style of Roseville. The lions would be the key to ID'ing it.

 

[dg39]

bump

 

[Bramblefind]

That is an incredible piece!

Not any expert by any means but it does look like some of the Roseville I found when I searched the web- and you are right that the pieces from 1900-1910 were not marked.

I was using keywords like jardiniere, pedestal, majolica...found this one like it-

http://bigrapidsantiques.com/shop/index.php?p=product&id=98&parent=7

I found this place that does appraisals over the net for $15.95 - I don't know anything about them but maybe of interest to you:

http://www.justartpottery.com/online_appraisal/appraisal_service.htm

 

[diggummup]

It's a piece of Majolica. Here is a similar one that sold for $325 at auction in 2009-



Doesn't look like Roseville styling or colors to me, probably a European Import.

 

[vickilynn]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=390267252324+



found this. Vickilynn

 

[diggummup]

The photo I posted is identical to the vase you have. I'm not an expert but I do collect and own several dozen pieces of American Art pottery such as Roseville, Rookwood, Weller, Pisgah Forest and Van Briggle to name a few.

 

[kyphote]

It's a piece of Majolica. Here is a similar one that sold for $325 at auction in 2009-




Doesn't look like Roseville styling or colors to me, probably a European Import.

In my professional opinion, Diggum is spot on. European import Majolica, probably turn of the century. Not Roseville, though you're right that Roseville identified some of their pieces on labels vs stamped, incised or impressed. I'd put the value between $400-$500.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

In my unprofessional opinion, Diggum has posted an identical pic. I guess its not one-of-a-kind or could it be the same item from the hotel?

 

[dg39]

The photo I posted is identical to the vase you have. I'm not an expert but I do collect and own several dozen pieces of American Art pottery such as Roseville, Rookwood, Weller, Pisgah Forest and Van Briggle to name a few.

I have collected and sold about a thousand pottery items from Newcomb to Van Briggle over the past 30+ years and have seen onlly one other this big. I am leaning in the directon of Roseville or Roseville-Rand.. Unless we find a photo in a catalogue, guess I will never know for sure. The one you pictured is its twin. From what I can gather when the Hotel was built in 1908 there were probably about 6 or eight of this piece bought and placed throughout the Hotel.
Here is a link to the Hotel's history that I had a friend build for the museum several years ago with its history.
www.historicbentley.com

Thanks to all for the help!!
DG

 

[kyphote]

The photo I posted is identical to the vase you have. I'm not an expert but I do collect and own several dozen pieces of American Art pottery such as Roseville, Rookwood, Weller, Pisgah Forest and Van Briggle to name a few.

I have collected and sold about a thousand pottery items from Newcomb to Van Briggle over the past 30+ years and have seen onlly one other this big. I am leaning in the directon of Roseville or Roseville-Rand.. Unless we find a photo in a catalogue, guess I will never know for sure. The one you pictured is its twin. From what I can gather when the Hotel was built in 1908 there were probably about 6 or eight of this piece bought and placed throughout the Hotel.
Here is a link to the Hotel's history that I had a friend build for the museum several years ago with its history.
www.historicbentley.com

Thanks to all for the help!!
DG

I've not come close to selling a thousand-plus pieces, but I've been collecting and appraising for 10+ years. The composition is Rosevillesque, but the glaze and definition are wrong. The lack of signature also makes it suspect for a piece this grand. I'll stand by European import. Would love to be proven wrong (I think).

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

It's a piece of Majolica. Here is a similar one that sold for $325 at auction in 2009-




Doesn't look like Roseville styling or colors to me, probably a European Import.

Do you have the link Digg?

 

[diggummup]

It's a piece of Majolica. Here is a similar one that sold for $325 at auction in 2009-




Doesn't look like Roseville styling or colors to me, probably a European Import.

Do you have the link Digg?

Sure but it doesn't offer anything as far as a maker or country of origin. There are some marks on the bottom that are definitely after production marks. It does state however that it is only 48" tall versus dg39's estimation of close to 5 feet on his example.

Here is the link (I don't know if you can see the prices realized unless you sign up)-
http://tinyurl.com/6klwzkj

I still don't think it's a Roseville piece or American made for that matter. Just my opinion...

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

There are some marks on the bottom that are definitely after production marks. It does state however that it is only 48" tall versus dg39's estimation of close to 5 feet on his example.

Here is the link (I don't know if you can see the prices realized unless you sign up)-

Thanks. Yes it shows the hammer price $325..

DG does yours have numbers marked on the bottom? 177/6

 

[dg39]

There are some marks on the bottom that are definitely after production marks. It does state however that it is only 48" tall versus dg39's estimation of close to 5 feet on his example.

Here is the link (I don't know if you can see the prices realized unless you sign up)-

Thanks. Yes it shows the hammer price $325..

DG does yours have numbers marked on the bottom? 177/6

Not a mark on it....I even found the thanks to factory's and firm's ad in the grand opening booklet from 1908. No clue there thaat I could see.
DG

 

[Gunrunner61]

You say that you've looked everywhere, does this include inside it. Inside the bowl, top and bottom? under the inside lips or maybe futher down inside it. Just a thought. Good luck on a very very nice piece. HH

 

[dg39]

You say that you've looked everywhere, does this include inside it. Inside the bowl, top and bottom? under the inside lips or maybe futher down inside it. Just a thought. Good luck on a very very nice piece. HH

Thanks GR but that's where I start and then look at the bottoms.
DG