Cant get an id on these coins

[Southie E.J.]

Can anyone id these coins? Its been a mystery for a longtime now.

 

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[NOLA_Ken]

definitely a brain bender.....the only bank of lira i could find is the one in Uganda, the design around the queens bust reminds me of the imperial logo from star wars, and the motto makes me think masonic or school motto. Good luck with them, and be sure to post back if you find anything out.

 

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[Bigcypresshunter]

Is 1 queen'n ounce similar to 1 freak'n ounce?

 

[Southie E.J.]

Ive never weighed them but will when i find a scale.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

A lot of words to Google here. Something should turn up for those that have the time and patience to search the words in different combinations..

Heres the image resized. What is that bottom right image?

 

[ohioaxeman]

Is 1 queen'n ounce similar to 1 freak'n ounce?

LOL

 

[NOLA_Ken]

bottom right....quill pen, inkwell and flying fish?!?!?!

 

[Dano Sverige]

I'm thinking this is the latest addition in the "pignuts" catagory!

 

[Bramblefind]

Here's a Italian 200 Lire from the 70s/80s. Shares the cogwheel/gear design aspect and might be about the same size/composition...?

Composition Aluminum-Bronze
Edge type Milled
Shape Round
Alignment Coin (180°)
Weight (gr) 5
Diameter (mm) 24
Thickness (mm) 1.64

I'm still thinking this is a made up toy coin but it sure would be nice to find another one out there somewhere.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

The best reference for playmoney was here but its no longer online unfortumately. http://www.americanplaymoney.webs.com/

 

[deepskyal]

Maybe it does have something to do with beekeeping and science of it.

Check out this article on Wiki...that 8000 year old cave painting sure kinda resembles that bottom right corner item in the shield. Bottom left maybe a smoke pot, top right a bee, top left a bee cell and the pick represents maybe digging or building a hive

And maybe...just maybe the "1 Queen'n ounce"....and ounce of honey and bank of Lira is some beekeepers token of some sort.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beekeeping

A far stretch but....
Just a possible direction to confuse you even more...

Al

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Maybe it does have something to do with beekeeping and science of it.

Check out this article on Wiki...that 8000 year old cave painting sure kinda resembles that bottom right corner item in the shield. Bottom left maybe a smoke pot, top right a bee, top left a bee cell and the pick represents maybe digging or building a hive

And maybe...just maybe the "1 Queen'n ounce"....and ounce of honey and bank of Lira is some beekeepers token of some sort.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beekeeping

A far stretch but....
Just a possible direction to confuse you even more...

Al

Very interesting theories to go along with the beehive hairdo. There have been a lot of bee items found over the years by TN members that have not been IDed..




Southie, is there any way we could get high resolution close ups of the 4 images?

 

[Breezie]

I'm thinking along the lines of Mack & BCH in that the woman's hair-do is called a Bee Hive, and it's probably some 'mammy made' coin from a group like the SCA. Some of these reenactment groups can get obsessive/compulsive, so I wouldn't be surprised if it were their personal mintage. Or it could be some company token promoting business. I think we need to continue to research this one.

WELCOME to the forum and you're right, it is a GREAT place to be!

Breezie

This may be waaaaay off base, but you could contact this company in MA to see if they ever made any 'tokens' to promote their business.
http://www.queenbeehoney.com/Retail_Location.htm

Also another avenue: Lira could be a person's name.

 

[daroofa]

Try this group..they run a steam punk role playing group out of MA. They have a Queen Lira and they're game currency is the Queen's Ounce. If you click the Event Info tab on this page, you'll see they use the cogwheel to mark map locations. Might not amount to anything, but I'd send them a pic and see what they say.

Also, if you look at some of the issues under the Rules tab, they have in in game newspaper....

From Issue 1:

"By decree of the Trade Sovereignty Act all formal commerce conducted within or originating from territory or demesne of the Lirian Empire must be transacted in Queen’s Ounces."


http://be-epic.com/contact_us.html

 

[Bramblefind]

That's some fantastic research Daroofa

 

[Breezie]

That's some fantastic research Daroofa

I agree Bramble! I went to their site and sent them an email and attached a pic of the coins. I'll post as soon as I hear from them. Breezie

 

[Southie E.J.]

Try this group..they run a steam punk role playing group out of MA. They have a Queen Lira and they're game currency is the Queen's Ounce. If you click the Event Info tab on this page, you'll see they use the cogwheel to mark map locations. Might not amount to anything, but I'd send them a pic and see what they say.

Also, if you look at some of the issues under the Rules tab, they have in in game newspaper....

From Issue 1:

"By decree of the Trade Sovereignty Act all formal commerce conducted within or originating from territory or demesne of the Lirian Empire must be transacted in Queen’s Ounces."


http://be-epic.com/contact_us.html

That just could be it! Even if not great reasearch!

 

[Southie E.J.]

That's some fantastic research Daroofa

I agree Bramble! I went to their site and sent them an email and attached a pic of the coins. I'll post as soon as I hear from them. Breezie

Thank you!

 

[Breezie]

No reply to the email as of yet. (1:30pmEST-Thursday) Breezie

 

[Dano Sverige]

I'm really hoping that was the wrong smiley you added to your last post southie?

 

[thebod]

When I ran PROGRESSIO SCIENTIA DEVOTIO through a language translator for Latin it came up with DAMN SCIENCE GOING FORWARD.

scientia: knowledge, science, skill
progressio: advance, progress, increase.
devotio: (Christian) piety, devotion, zeal.