Charles IX 1572 dug in a bottle dump?

[steamjunker]

I dug this silver coin, today in a bottle dump.
The Obverse-CAROLVSIX.D.G.FRANCORVM.REX.INVIC.1572
Reverse-ELIZABETH.D.G.FRANCORVM.REGINA.

Is this coin worth anything?

 

[matt092079]

Doesn't appear silver, but good luck.

 

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[Erik in NJ]

I agree with Matt 100% that it's not a silver coin. It might be a silver plated contemporary counterfeit. The telltale sign of it not being silver is the broken edge and the crack revealing the substrate behind the bust on the obverse. Regardless it appears to be an excellent find.

Try wrapping the wet coin in aluminum foil a few times and see if it cleans up.

 

[matt092079]

Silver just does not corrode like that. Like Erik said, most likely silver plated of some sort. Not sure what the base metal may be, perhaps bronze or even pewter. The corrosion on it looks almost how a pewter button would look.

 

[steamjunker]

Silver just does not corrode like that. Like Erik said, most likely silver plated of some sort. Not sure what the base metal may be, perhaps bronze or even pewter. The corrosion on it looks almost how a pewter button would look.

I agree, silver does not corrode like that, probably silver plate,looks like pewter in between the "sandwich".thank you for helping figure this one out

 

[pennyfarmer]

I dug a silver dollar that had weird corrosion on it and I believed it was a counterfeit. It was bubled and made a funny noise when dropped. The diameter was also a little bit off.

I later had it tested for metal content and analysis come back at 90% silver. The copper was there and the analysis even included silica which was probably dirt still attached in the cracks. I assume that the corrosion and increased diameter could have been from the coin being in a fire. This coin in this thread was in a bottle dump where there could have been numerous fires that affected the metal without actually melting the coin. I am not going to jump on the not silver bandwagon just yet.

 

[vpnavy]

Nice find steamjunker.

 

[steamjunker]

I dug a silver dollar that had weird corrosion on it and I believed it was a counterfeit. It was bubled and made a funny noise when dropped. The diameter was also a little bit off.

I later had it tested for metal content and analysis come back at 90% silver. The copper was there and the analysis even included silica which was probably dirt still attached in the cracks. I assume that the corrosion and increased diameter could have been from the coin being in a fire. This coin in this thread was in a bottle dump where there could have been numerous fires that affected the metal without actually melting the coin. I am not going to jump on the not silver bandwagon just yet.

Pennyfarmer, there were some melted bottles in the pit, where do you take it or send it to have it tested for metal content?

 

[Iron Patch]

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Carolvsix dg francorvm rex invic 1572

Yes, a medal, and definitely a modern restrike. In fact, I don't think restrike is the right term to use because it's likely cast modern white/junk metal.

 

[pennyfarmer]

Pennyfarmer, there were some melted bottles in the pit, where do you take it or send it to have it tested for metal content?

I happen to work in a machine shop that has a machine that can give me a content printout. I am sure an analysis is expensive and not really worth it. Just one if those job perks I suppose.

 

[steamjunker]

I will have it tested

 

[steamjunker]

seems mixed metal

 

[Maburger]

yup you were right iron,junk

Too bad! But you learned something new from the research. That's worth something in it's self even if the token isn't valuable. Keep looking....