CROWN BRAND B & L - old button?

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CROWN BRAND B & L - old button?

Can anyone tell me what this might be, and how old? It says "CROWN - B & L - Brand".
The piece appears to be possibly brass on top, but another metal (rusted) on the bottom.
It is smaller than the diameter of a dime.
I dug it up at the old 1804 plantation house I hunted at today. (pictured)
The place was owned by a doctor during the Civil War, and he actually used the house as a hospital. The old truck was parked across the street, so I couldn't resist getting a shot of it too. ;D
Any info would be appreciated.
Thanks,
MM
 

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PBK

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Re: CROWN BRAND B & L - old button?

Looks like a work clothes / overalls button.
 

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Nuthin on the button... but your fingerprints are so clear I'm starting to get hits on some closed-case files.

Great pics! Love the truck!
 

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Montana Jim said:
Nuthin on the button... but your fingerprints are so clear I'm starting to get hits on some closed-case files.

Great pics! Love the truck!

Jim,
OJ did it, not me. ;D
Mine are diggin' man hands. ;)
Hope you're doing well. I finally received my first Montana quarter today, and you came to mind. :D
Have a good one,
MM
 

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Yep, the FBI just called, seems there is a string of unsolved lawn defacings. They started in Indiana some years ago, then mysteriously moved to California. The most recent have been in NC. Run! my friend they are on to ya. Bongo oh yeah, I don,t know squat about your button, most of mine started popping off when I gave up serious treasure huntin.LOL. Bongo
 

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bongo1962 said:
Yep, the FBI just called, seems there is a string of unsolved lawn defacings. They started in Indiana some years ago, then mysteriously moved to California. The most recent have been in NC. Run! my friend they are on to ya. Bongo oh yeah, I don,t know squat about your button, most of mine started popping off when I gave up serious treasure huntin.LOL. Bongo

Bongo,
You're just not right! ;D
-MM-
 

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Muddyhandz said:
Click on this link and you will get the idea http://www.vintagebuttons.net/work.html
Also you will find another variation of your "crown" halfway down the page.
Dave.

Dave,
Very cool. Thanks for that info on the button.
-MM-
 

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Hello

B&L could equal = Bausch & Lomb

Subject: World War 1 period U.S. binoculars
From: SCSambrook@___m
Crown binoculars seem to have been prominent in British attempts to acquire
sufficient supplies, and some support was probably provided by the British
authorities in building up the capabilities of Crown Optical. Optical glass is one
area where the firm must have been dependent on sources outside the USA.
What appears to have made the British enthusiastic for Crown was the belief of
the Ministry of Munitions that Bausch & Lomb were not giving value for money. The
notion of pro-German B&L sympathies is not shown in the Ministry's surviving files,
but there are most certainly disparaging remarks - 'instruments of inferior quality
... at exorbitant prices' is one of the nicer references ! It's clear that the
Ministry of Munitions was seeking to end what it saw as B&L's U.S. binocular
monopoly.
B&L were charging the British $56.90 for the Prism Stereo 6x 30 in 1915, as
opposed to the original Crown contract price of $32.50 for their equivalent. Does
anyone know at what price B&L retailed their glass at this time? At roughly $5 to
the £, the B&L price certainly looks high - English made service 6x 30s were costing
the government about £6 ($30 equivalent) throughout most of the war.
And I'm sorry to hear that Bill Cook's staff don't always chose to benefit from
the Boss's wisdom ... but it does make me feel a little better ! Thanks, Bill.
Cheers, Stephen.
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Those prices are roughly equal to what B & L charged here in the U.S. You can find
comparable prices for B & L models sold in the U.S. at:
http://home.europa.com/~telscope/b-and-l.txt
....or in Excel
http://www.europa.com/~telscope/b-and-l.xls

By The River
 

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