CruDads KILLER 3rd C Roman Brooch!

CRUSADER · Dec 3, 2011

Cru'Dads KILLER 3rd C Roman Brooch!

We started on a pasture field that a farmer told us about last week, he was keen for us to try it. After 45 minutes with just 1 musket ball & no encouraging signs we decided to move to plan B.
Plan B is a large field that we tried for the first time at the beginning of the year, we stopped as the Wheat got too high but had a hunch where to try next. As luck would have it the owner has left it fallow/stubble but its in good condition with really flat stubble & no weed. We spent 2.5 hours starting our gridding on the edge that we liked to look of, second dig was a Roman coin, so game on...

1 good button
12 Roman Coins in 2.5 hours (which beat by 2, our last 3 days effort on this land)
Medieval Buckle & Pin

Dad got the star find in the shape of a complete large 3rd Century AD Open Frame Brooch. I had never seen one, its a RARE find with only 2 similar examples on the UKDFD, can't find any on the PAS (if someone does, let us know). No examples in Hattatt's Brooch Book, 6 different types in 'Roman buckles & military fittings', but none match the type Dad found.
They were more like buckles & were on a broad waist belt (or balteus).

Another good short hunt in lean types...

shaun7 · Dec 3, 2011

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Cor...that's nice :icon_thumleft:

Your dad does it again :notworthy:

wwwtimmcp · Dec 3, 2011

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very cool, what is the hollow thing on top of picture 3 with all the bumps on it ?
p.s. merry christmas a little early

dirt diva · Dec 3, 2011

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WOW :notworthy:

What a day!!

CRUSADER · Dec 3, 2011

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wwwtimmcp said:
very cool, what is the hollow thing on top of picture 3 with all the bumps on it ?
p.s. merry christmas a little early

Its actually a rolled up horse rosette :icon_thumright:

The Patriot · Dec 3, 2011

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Brooch there...love seeing your post and Cru'Dads finds :laughing7:

ds6191 · Dec 3, 2011

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I love when you post your finds. And to think I get excited about a coin from the 1800's. Thanks for sharing. Dan

umrgolf · Dec 3, 2011

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Great find there :icon_thumleft:

What is the figure on top of the brooch

BobinSouthVA · Dec 3, 2011

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Very nice finds,

:icon_thumleft:

jewelerguy · Dec 3, 2011

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wow awesome finds :headbang:

CRUSADER · Dec 3, 2011

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umrgolf said:
Great find there What is the figure on top of the brooch

Just looks like a double fish tail to me, but that's the part that matches none of the published examples I can find.

Taranis · Dec 3, 2011

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Congrats!
Very nice that omega fibel!
http://www.google.com/search?q=omeg...ct=mode&cd=2&ved=0CB8Q_AUoAQ&biw=1680&bih=935
or
http://www.jozefherman.nl/romeins/html/omega-fibula.html
or
http://www.ancientresource.com/lots/medieval_crusades/viking_anglosaxon_norman.html
Like this without pin:

CRUSADER · Dec 3, 2011

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Taranis said:
Congrats!
Very nice that omega fibel!
http://www.google.com/search?q=omeg...ct=mode&cd=2&ved=0CB8Q_AUoAQ&biw=1680&bih=935
or
http://www.jozefherman.nl/romeins/html/omega-fibula.html
or
http://www.ancientresource.com/lots/medieval_crusades/viking_anglosaxon_norman.html
Like this without pin:

Thanks.

I know 'omega' is another description given to them, but none of your links are an exact match, keep looking, must be one out there $:-\$

Silver Searcher · Dec 3, 2011

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Don't look, because there proberbly insn't one quite like it it

Great find Cru Dad :icon_thumleft:

The penanular brooches posted in the links, are not the same as these types, and don't appear often, although they go through to the Medieval period. What do you think the beast heads are, they look a little like Hares to me :dontknow:

SS

tinpan · Dec 3, 2011

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Hi you do huge amounts of roman relics. When was the UK the centre of the Roman Empire? I would like to see foundations and all the thousands of roman ruins you have. Any chance.

tinpan

GoldenEagle · Dec 4, 2011

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Nice work, I love the roman coins not to many in Minnesota,

ossi · Dec 4, 2011

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Welcome to Crusader.
Congratulations, I really like is there are things in Rome, but unfortunately most of the coins is in bad quality. nice fibula. Continue to hunt. Ossi

CRUSADER · Dec 4, 2011

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Silver Searcher said:
Don't look, because there proberbly insn't one quite like it it Great find Cru Dad The penanular brooches posted in the links, are not the same as these types, and don't appear often, although they go through to the Medieval period. What do you think the beast heads are, they look a little like Hares to me

SS

Yes, at first I thought it was a penannular type (1st C BC-1st AD), because that was they only similar thing I knew about. Soon found out it was 3rd C, but also not a million miles away from the Viking :thumbsup:

Sadly didn't picture well, there are dots all around the ring, & two sets of 3 diagonal dots in rows on the end. The ends, just fish tail out & have no other features to suggest any type of animal/beast/head. :icon_thumright:

CRUSADER · Dec 4, 2011

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tinpan said:
Hi you do huge amounts of roman relics. When was the UK the centre of the Roman Empire? I would like to see foundations and all the thousands of roman ruins you have. Any chance.

tinpan

http://www.destinations-uk.com/attractions.php?link=attractions&country=england&category=Roman Sites
You can visit some of the above, if you wish to see any, no chance in any of the land we do.
The only clues in this field (as we have had no pottery shards) was an increase in lead pieces, slightly darker soil, & the high ground (gravel bar), fairly close to water.
As I hinted, we spent 3 days earlier this year on this field with only 10 scrappy coins, we could have spent another 10 days in the wrong area and had next to nothing. You begin to get a 6th sense after years of experience, no need for insitu stone which I have NEVER seen in all my years detecting.
Our theory about this site at the moment, is that it maybe an industrial sand/gravel extraction area. The large heavy duty, well made buckle/brooch are often associated with Roman Military activity, the sort you may get overseeing an operation to extract resources.
I'm 100% sure I explained why we have never seen remains & only do ploughed fields (even logic/common sense would say, you can't plough insitu structures), so I don't mine explaining to those others that read it or ask, but I'm not repeating myself to any other questions you have about it, unless your forgetting :dontknow:

(maybe try SS/hammered/Shaun7 next time, see if you get a different perspective)

CRUSADER · Dec 4, 2011

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ossi said:
Welcome to Crusader.
Congratulations, I really like is there are things in Rome, but unfortunately most of the coins is in bad quality. nice fibula. Continue to hunt. Ossi

All of our coins have been distroyed by farming chemicals & plough

The picture you give is similar, but the 3 rows of dots on ours goes diagonally the opposite way & the ends are more like a fish tail, but pretty close :icon_thumright:

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