Cufflinks, Coppers, and Cut Spanish Silver!!

[Steve in PA]

I got out both days this weekend with TomPA. Both days were spent at sites that we have pounded hard in the past, but this year's farming activities brought some relics and coins within the range of our detectors. Saturday's hunt was on what we believe was an inn circa 1790 to 1820. My take was 11 buttons, 2 plain cufflinks, a saddle oval "thingy", piece of a small pewter spoon, and 2 broken tombac buttons that both had designs on them.

Sunday's hunt was at site that saw French and Indian War activity in the 1750's and was a travellers stopping place until about 1810 or so. I have been expecting to find a cut piece of Spanish silver at this site since my first visit 6 years ago. Yesterday, I had a strong feeling that today was gonna be the day. About an hour into the hunt I got a nice tone with a 70 readout on the F75. Soon I had a clump of dirt in my hand and could see a silvery triangle shape peeking out thru the dirt. After so many coppers at this site, I finally had a piece of Spansh!! Other notable finds were a KG II copper, a half cent that looks to be 1807, and a running fox "Tallio" cufflink that matches one I found at this site on my first visit 6 years ago.


The Spanish silver was my 8th this year, 16th cut piece, and 53rd Spanish silver overall. This has been my best year ever for Spanish silvers.

 

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[The Patriot]

Hey, some sweet finds there, I have a complete same shaped fox TALLIO cufflinks, that I found a number of years ago, they are shown in the book "History written with pick and shovel".

 

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[Silver Searcher]

I think there might even be a third version of the spelling.

I have a complete link I found many years ago but would have to dig it out to see which it is.

I could'nt find a exact meaning for the word TALIO, I would ashume that it is some darivative of TALLYHO, your version will be interesting, hope you can find it.

SS

 

[70monte68]

Great finds!

 

[CMDiamonddawg]

bit of a pistereen! nice ! Great hunt and digs Steve . Those runnin' fox cufflinks show up here in Cape May Co. , I have one TAlIO and a Tally HO and a TO HO , two HO's and one O ... is the TO HO the mystery missing link DAWG

 

[The Patriot]

Here is a picture from the book, "History written with pick and shovel" and of the ones I've found...they are rev war period...

 

[Steve in PA]

Here is a picture from the book, "History written with pick and shovel" and of the ones I've found...they are rev war period...

That is a nice pair you found Patriot! I have heard others say these turn up with Rev War buttons. I believe they were probably popular until at least 1800.

 

[Steve in PA]

bit of a pistereen! nice ! Great hunt and digs Steve . Those runnin' fox cufflinks show up here in Cape May Co. , I have one TAlIO and a Tally HO and a TO HO , two HO's and one O ... is the TO HO the mystery missing link DAWG

Hey Dawg, it is actually a bit from a Pillar style 8 reale. Lets see pictures of your fox links.

 

[Don in SJ]

Just some more info on the Running Fox buttons, in Tice's "Dating Buttons" book he shows an example displaying TALLYO, in his description paragraph he dates it late 1700s(most likely 1790 era) with a manufacture of Nottingham, England.

I have noticed that is sometimes hard to distinguish between a TALLIO and a TALLYO, due wear and condition of the ground found ones, still not 100% positive my one set is TALLYO and the other set is TALLIO.

 

[CMDiamonddawg]

Hey Dawg, it is actually a bit from a Pillar style 8 reale. Lets see pictures of your fox links.

Hey Steve , I am working till the AM in this stuff .. ok , I'll get some pics

TO HO strange .. it looks like a walking fox , K9 , or wolf and a weak example of a TALLY HO on right .. tried to get a better shots of the others but ran out of day light .. hurricanes , snow storms , what's next

locusts

 

[Bev]

I was wondering if TALIO was derived from the word TALLY HO, the cry of the Fox hunting fraternity...Tally-ho" had its first recorded use in the Americas in a 1802 hunting journal. From there, its use spread as more British colonists arrived. However, the phrase fell out of favour following the conclusion of the American Revolutionary War (1775–1783).

SS

Oh! I have the other one of your tally ho cufflink! Its actually a deer or a fox in a hunt right? It was probably already answered but I was so excited to share!

 

[Bill D. (VA)]

That makes sense to me SS. Do you guys find these running fox cufflinks over there? If so, do you find both versions of the spelling - Tallio (like mine) and Tallyo (like Don's)?

Guess I'll chime in on this spelling bee too. I found a "TALLIO" button last year at a late 1700s site. I have never heard of it being spelled the way Don's was. Here's a couple pics of my button although it wasn't in the best of shape.

 

[Steve in PA]

Guess I'll chime in on this spelling bee too. I found a "TALLIO" button last year at a late 1700s site. I have never heard of it being spelled the way Don's was. Here's a couple pics of my button although it wasn't in the best of shape.

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Bill, yours is the only round one I've seen. Sprouse's book on excavated Colonial and Rev War artifacts has an oval one on page 129/130. She describes it as "a pair of brass cufflinks showing the popular design of a running fox and the words TALLY HO". I can't really tell from her picture if is TALLY HO or TALLIO.

 

[Kirk PA]

You are having a great year, Steve. I am amazed at all of the relics still in the ground in Western PA. The cufflinks are cool and the cut piece is freak-style! Passion Pumped!

Kirk

 

[Jaichim24]

Here are front and back pics of a cuff link I found this past week end. Prior to reading this post, I thought it was a deer jumping over a log. Now, based on the pictures provided it is most likely a Fox. I thought that where the tail should be was a crack in the patina, but it is most likely the Fox's tail. No Talio on mine though.

Has anyone found one like mine listed anywhere?

 

[ticm]

Sweet diggings

 

[MaineRelic]

I know this a very old post i am digging up . This post came up while I was researching the late 18th early 19th century linked cuff buttons I recently found .A very interesting and informative post . No tallio on this linked button which I have yet to find an exact match in my research .I thought I would add my example to future reasearchers . With the curved or bobed tail I assume mine is illistrating a Fox hound on the chase . M.R.

 

[sutphin]

SILVER AND SHERDS AND BUTTONS OF ALL KINDS , AND AN OLE GEORGE BOY AND CUFF LINKS BOY STEVE I BET YOU WERE SURPRISED.......

 

[park pirate]

Awesome finds...

 

[46Wheat]

That's an awesome bunch of finds

 

[Steve in PA]

I know this a very old post i am digging up . This post came up while I was researching the late 18th early 19th century linked cuff buttons I recently found .A very interesting and informative post . No tallio on this linked button which I have yet to find an exact match in my research .I thought I would add my example to future reasearchers . With the curved or bobed tail I assume mine is illistrating a Fox hound on the chase . M.R.

That is a nice example. I haven't seen that pattern before. The tail makes it a little difficult to ID the animal, but I don't know if atanomical accuracy was on the minds of those 18th century die engravers.