CW rifle butt plate ID needed- ***SOLVED***

[ModernMiner]

Can any of you CW experts out there ID this brass rifle butt plate?
Thanks for your help,
MM

 

[johnnyi]

Re: CW rifle butt plate ID needed

Modern miner, what makes you think it is Civil war period? Was it found on a battle site? I'm just asking because of the screw. Other posters here know far more about Civil War weapons than I do, but when dating furniture for instance, a screw without a point might be a sign that it dated at leasr before 1845 if not earlier. I don't know if this applies to guns where perhaps they used pointless wood screws later on?

 

[ModernMiner]

Re: CW rifle butt plate ID needed

Modern miner, what makes you think it is Civil war period? Was it found on a battle site? I'm just asking because of the screw. Other posters here know far more about Civil War weapons than I do, but when dating furniture for instance, a screw without a point might be a sign that it dated at leasr before 1845 if not earlier. I don't know if this applies to guns where perhaps they used pointless wood screws later on?

Good eye Johnny.
It was indeed found on a CW battlefield.
-MM-

 

[Buck Bagaw]

Re: CW rifle butt plate ID needed

Re pointless wood screws, the buttplate on my antique 1861 Springfield is attached with them, but has only two. This buttplate has a similar shape and fits the CW time frame since they used arms made from the 1820s on. That being said, I cannot identify the manufacturer of the pictured item.

 

[Silver Searcher]

Re: CW rifle butt plate ID needed

Found one similar to yours :P not that I know much about the CW period :P

these come under the Springfield section http://www.gundersonmilitaria.com/parts.html

SS

 

[TiredIron]

Re: CW rifle butt plate ID needed

M.M.'s buttplate has three screw holes, is made of brass, and had a mild cresent shape toward the toe......
I think its a 1853 Enfield Barnett Rifle butt plate. Yep I'd bet a cold one.
http://www.antiquearmsinc.com/enfield-1853-barnett-rifle.htm
http://www.antiquearmsinc.com/images/enfield-1853-barnett-rifle/enfield-1853-barnett-rifle-6.jpg
TiredIron
I would work that area with a screen....there is a good chance more of that rifle is
close by.

 

[tymcmurray]

Re: CW rifle butt plate ID needed

Still researching, but haven't been able to find a 3 hole or one with the overlap piece
so dadgum narrow. This one is gonna kill me!!!

 

[TiredIron]

Re: CW rifle butt plate ID needed

http://www.antiquearmsinc.com/images/enfield-1853-barnett-rifle/enfield-1853-barnett-rifle-6.jpg

 

[BuckleBoy]

Re: CW rifle butt plate ID needed

M.M.'s buttplate has three screw holes, is made of brass, and had a mild cresent shape toward the toe......
I think its a 1853 Enfield Barnett butt plate. Yep I'd bet a cold one.
http://www.antiquearmsinc.com/enfield-1853-barnett-rifle.htm
http://www.antiquearmsinc.com/images/enfield-1853-barnett-rifle/enfield-1853-barnett-rifle-6.jpg
TiredIron

Great ID!

And a good close-up of the nipple protector chain in this link you posted, TiredIron.

http://www.antiquearmsinc.com/enfield-1853-barnett-rifle.htm

MM can look at the style of the loops and see if they match.


Regards,



Buckles

 

[tymcmurray]

Re: CW rifle butt plate ID needed

They got it, Doug!!!
Here is a link that will give you the schematics to the Enfield (2nd one down).
Looks right to me.
http://cwsutler.hypermart.net/Part.html

 

[ModernMiner]

Re: CW rifle butt plate ID needed

M.M.'s buttplate has three screw holes, is made of brass, and had a mild cresent shape toward the toe......
I think its a 1853 Enfield Barnett Rifle butt plate. Yep I'd bet a cold one.
http://www.antiquearmsinc.com/enfield-1853-barnett-rifle.htm
http://www.antiquearmsinc.com/images/enfield-1853-barnett-rifle/enfield-1853-barnett-rifle-6.jpg
TiredIron
I would work that area with a screen....there is a good chance more of that rifle is
close by.

They got it, Doug!!!
Here is a link that will give you the schematics to the Enfield (2nd one down).
Looks right to me.
http://cwsutler.hypermart.net/Part.html

You guys are GREAT!!!
Tired Iron,
Thanks for the ID.

Ty,
Thanks for the great schematics. I'll bookmark that link.

Great job guys, we'll tag this one SOLVED!!!
Ya-hooooooooo!
-MM-