Idahodutch
Bronze Member
The German clue in regards to the saddle obove the LDM, says "
" Von meiner lagerstatte wenn du im sattel sitz kannst du in ferne im suden durch ein loch vom Berg sehen " . This sentence is translated in English ( and Black Line who is a German citizen and also a Tnet member , confirmed this translation ) as:
" From my storage area when you sit in the saddle you can see in the distance to the south through a hole in the mountain ".
The first translation " From my camp in the saddle you will see a peak in the distance to the south with a hole " is mistranslated and send many good people in the wrong place, and those who continue to support this translation are wasting their money and time.
Actually, the hole in the mountain is the tunnel where the miners were leaving their mining gear, and was the passage from the saddle to the trail downhill to the mines. This tunnel was mentioned by Waltz to Julia, telling her " The tunnel entrance is supposed to be shaped like a bell ".
Also, this tunnel/passage was mentioned by Doc Thorne in Jim Bark's notes. There are also another stories who mention that tunnel, like the Two Soldiers and Joe Deering's.
So, this clue is one which was validated and should be taken in consideration more than other.
Good morning Markmar,
I know there is much debate about translation.
I am curious, if your translation is the correct one, how are we to see off in the distance, to the south, a small opening shaped like a bell, that is on another mountain ..... especially when the hole is man sized?
Just your opinion of how Waltz could see a small opening to a tunnel, no bigger than a fat man, over on a distant mountain.
Not trying to pick a fight, just curious how even Waltz could have seen it from a distance.
For you to say it has been validated, is not correct, unless you mean is has been validated .... in your opinion.
Stories are stories, and are what dreams are made of. Sometimes there can be truth involved, and sometimes not.
There is one part of the ?hole?, tunnel, trick in trail, Waltz? secret final instructions from saddle to Holmes ..... and in particular the bit about the Apache having filled it all up. Tossed the mining tools into the shaft mine, and covered .... everything?
Not many talk about the trick in the trail. You have said that is because it was burried up by the Apache, in different thread. And that is why nobody has found the trick in the trail.
Do you have a copy of that story? One of the things we are planning to investigate on this next trip, is to see if perhaps there is truth to the story and if it applies to the LDM, or just another story.
Thanks Markmar,
Idahodutch.