Early US silver, spanish silver and more!

shiningstar76 · Sep 22, 2006

this is this weeks take....It has been so exciting! I won't kiss and tell too much, but we are having fun.
Note on the 1820 dime that there is a double die on the reverse. Especially notable on the "M" in america, but also on the left of the shield, and the second "S" in states. It's also visible after the "D" in united but not so visible in the scan. Any info on early double dies? I cant find any info or value. It's a really nice coin and I am excited to find it after the beat up coppers

The coins/buttons are:
button-some silver(?) plating 1830 large cent 1805 spanish carolus IIII 1784 spanish carolus III
1820 bust dime 1818 large cent 1853 large cent 1819 large cent
Two small Gilt style buttons 1816-35 matron head large cent(no date)

PCGS doesn't even list any double die variety. I know that there are many anomalies in early american coinage, but is the double die common?

Ramapirate · Sep 23, 2006

Where abouts in Savannah are you finding that stuff?

Just messing, I finally hit a little site where I'm finding some wheats pretty regular and I've even been leary to share that site. You got some great finds there, keep up the good work!!!

Don in SJ · Sep 23, 2006

OK, I found it, it is a known variety: JR-2 Variety

1820 10C Small 0 JR-2, R.3.

this popular "Office Boy" reverse with several letters showing strong recutting

The photo is from an auction, the coin pictured sold for $488 in January

Now I have to attribute my 1820, never have, but will now....

Don in SJ

shiningstar76 · Sep 23, 2006

Don in SJ said:
OK, I found it, it is a known variety: JR-2 Variety

1820 10C Small 0 JR-2, R.3.

this popular "Office Boy" reverse with several letters showing strong recutting

The photo is from an auction, the coin pictured sold for $488 in January

Now I have to attribute my 1820, never have, but will now....

Don in SJ

thank you so much. that is the exact coin that I have. Same offset and everything. That helps a ton

hollowpointred · Sep 23, 2006

god! what a haul!! i dont know which i like more, the capped dime or the reale holed by a square nail! (how cool is that?!) great finds and great post!

comfyinvermont · Sep 23, 2006

Fantastic ShingingStar. Those are some fine coins. Congrats...Lance

shiningstar76 · Sep 23, 2006

I spoke with a coin dealer today and he said that those spanish coins turn up quite a bit in this area. He said that the british and the french used to plunder spanish ships leaving the new world and would take all the monetary cargo(coins, bars, ect.) and they would end up in circulation as people understood the real. Something new everyday. Thats what I love about this hobby. It teaches you things about history you never would have known. HH

hollowpointred · Sep 23, 2006

shiningstar76 said:
I spoke with a coin dealer today and he said that those spanish coins turn up quite a bit in this area. He said that the british and the french used to plunder spanish ships leaving the new world and would take all the monetary cargo(coins, bars, ect.) and they would end up in circulation as people understood the real. Something new everyday. Thats what I love about this hobby. It teaches you things about history you never would have known. HH

ive heard the same thing. i dont care if they are rather common, they still fascinate me! especially one that was holed by a square nail back in colonial times! for some reason that makes it so much cooler to me! ::)

...........again you have some phenomanal finds there!

trk5capt · Sep 23, 2006

SHININGSTAR, Great Finds Neighbor, Congrats. Trk5capt...

dave-enc · Sep 23, 2006

wow what a terrific bunch of finds wtg
hh
dave+bobbie

Skrimpy · Sep 23, 2006

SSSSSAAAAAWEEEEEEEET DIME!!!!! If you get it graded let us know how it goes. How deep was it? What kind of soil? Without giving away your site, give us more details about the sites history!!! Was it an old house? School? Trains station? That dime is in fantastic condition for coming out of the ground man. VERY, VERY, VERY NICE!!! I love those old coins!

Mona Lisa · Sep 23, 2006

Helloooooo ShiningStar.......you're the hunter of the week. 8)

What a fantastic group of coins you found!

Congratulations!!

muddyknees · Sep 23, 2006

And Im jealous as hell.
muddyknees

shiningstar76 · Sep 24, 2006

its an old trade route. I got maps off of the library of congress website. Overlaid them on google earth. Lots of them look like dirt bike trails now, but used to be carriage roads.

eric in ks · Sep 24, 2006

Wow! That dime is beautiful. Hope your good fortune continues at that spot. HH, Eric

The Seeker · Sep 24, 2006

Excellent.............!!!! What else is there to say, you have one nice spot there and finding coins from that time period is what detecting is all about ! What is great about your spot is that the majority of the coins are early 1800 to early 1820's .......What would interest me is the 1850's coin....Now I would believe ,depending on the place and area that you would have plenty more coins and items that span 30 to 40 years ! Settlers may have lived there that long .......... Nice work and have a blast on your next visit!!!!

Skrimpy · Sep 24, 2006

shiningstar76 said:
its an old trade route. I got maps off of the library of congress website.

Sounds like a good research technique...especially in my area. Everyone here is interested in trying to find old military encampments and battlefields, so all the commercial stuff...roads, train stations, grocery stores, inns, and taverns get overlooked. What do I look for on the web site? Is there a search function for "trade routes" or "maps"?

DugHoles · Sep 24, 2006

Now theres a nice grip of coins there....WTG!

GL & HH,

DugHoles

Skrimpy · Sep 24, 2006

Man the detail on that dime is absolutely amazing! Wish those copper ones would come up like that! They would be priceless. What's with the hole in the reale? Was it common to poke holes in them for a necklace back then or did somebody nail to something (ie a post, a tree, above a doorway for good luck or something?)