East Tx Axtells

[Garscale]

Here is a little known type from east tx. I dug these from layers concurrent to Dalton . All are heavily ground on the base and made of imported material with a few pet wood exceptions.

 

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[Tdog]

"Penny" points? Nice.

 

[islamoradamark]

nice collection

 

[kentucky Quinn]

Beautiful frame of killers!

 

[newnan man]

Very nice, some look like what's called Boggy Creek in Florida.

 

[Tdog]

I learned about these points from the now defunct Arrowheadology site when you were digging and posting them there Gar.

 

[Garscale]

I learned about these points from the now defunct Arrowheadology site when you were digging and posting them there Gar.

Yep. They are little known. Often confused with Palmillas that they call penny points. These are transitional paleo for sure. Some books call them late archaic but they are not. As far as I know, I'm the only person to ever dig a significant quantity of them in context.

 

[Tdog]

Very nice, some look like what's called Boggy Creek in Florida.

They do have similar characteristics but are from different time periods.

Axtells are middle to late archaic - https://www.projectilepoints.net/Points/Axtel.html

Boggy Branches are early to middle archaic - https://www.projectilepoints.net/Points/Boggy_Branch_1.html

Edit: This is what I just got from projectilepoints.net. So they evidently are from the same time period!

 

[Garscale]

Yep. Axtells I dug are early archaic at latest. Note they are almost all imported material just like the paleo.

I wouldn't be surprised if they and Boggy Branch are the same thing.

 

[Garscale]

If you look at the Boggy Branch examples shown, you would think most came out of my frame.

 

[Fat]

.... and just when you thought I didn’t like that Garys frame.... you really have some outstanding frames....
I would like to learn about how you started your dig and go way back. Is there a specific book title about it all?

 

[Garscale]

.... and just when you thought I didn’t like that Garys frame.... you really have some outstanding frames....
I would like to learn about how you started your dig and go way back. Is there a specific book title about it all?

I have done many digs now in a bunch of areas. Currently digging in Angelina Co near Lufkin. I dont post my recent finds. As a matter of fact I just started back posting old finds recently. You can search my threads here and find some but most went away with arrowheadology.

 

[H.P.]

Super collection,lots of colors, love the point with the little blue birthmark.

 

[Garscale]

Super collection,lots of colors, love the point with the little blue birthmark.

Neat how the flake ran right across it.

 

[Garscale]

.... and just when you thought I didn’t like that Garys frame.... you really have some outstanding frames....
I would like to learn about how you started your dig and go way back. Is there a specific book title about it all?

I have literally hunted points all my life and my Dad hunted all his life. It was something we did together and always dreamed of a major excavation. We located and bought a nice site but I was in a corporate job and just never had the time. Then Dad had a massive heart attack. I knew then time was getting away so I started inventing ways to screen dirt with power. Fast forward 25 years and I have it perfected. we did that dig together and found around 30,000 points on 2 acres. The site was close to 15ft deep of layered occupation. What an adventure! Dad is still with me at 84 years old and still digging points. 400 point days are probably average with a few 1000 plus days. I started posting some of the stuff here and, my god, I almost got run out of here on a rail. I just quit posting my daily finds and then I enjoyed the site much more. I'll share type frames for educational value because I feel obligated to share info. Hope this wasnt too long. I started to pm you but figured others may have had the same questions. Thanks for asking, Steve

 

[Tnmountains]

Yep. They are little known. Often confused with Palmillas that they call penny points. These are transitional paleo for sure. Some books call them late archaic but they are not. As far as I know, I'm the only person to ever dig a significant quantity of them in context.

That is frigging awesome to find so many in a cluster. I need a back hoe lol. Wish I had of hunted the Brazos more when I lived in College Station.

 

[H.P.]

I have literally hunted points all my life and my Dad hunted all his life. It was something we did together and always dreamed of a major excavation. We located and bought a nice site but I was in a corporate job and just never had the time. Then Dad had a massive heart attack. I knew then time was getting away so I started inventing ways to screen dirt with power. Fast forward 25 years and I have it perfected. we did that dig together and found around 30,000 points on 2 acres. The site was close to 15ft deep of layered occupation. What an adventure! Dad is still with me at 84 years old and still digging points. 400 point days are probably average with a few 1000 plus days. I started posting some of the stuff here and, my god, I almost got run out of here on a rail. I just quit posting my daily finds and then I enjoyed the site much more. I'll share type frames for educational value because I feel obligated to share info. Hope this wasnt too long. I started to pm you but figured others may have had the same questions. Thanks for asking, Steve

Hey Garscale, great father son relationship, my dad died young, but met my wife in grade school, was fortunate she was a tomboy, we hunted points for 60 years, been married 63 years, born May 1938, I would still hunt but not many places left around here..Thanks for sharing that piece of your life..Concerning what most folks think about the way we do things ( within reason ) who gives a flip, show and share, we only come this way once.

 

[newnan man]

Glad you knew that time with your Dad was more important than a job. Look at what you have accomplished. Please keep sharing your finds with us. It is very educating and enjoyable. I seldom get a chance to look for points so seeing others finds is a highlight.