When out searching for gold, how many of you are conscious of your impact on the Environment? What are some techniques you use to reduce this impact?
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If it truly is a fire break. Why where the trees placed across it. You would think. They would want clear access for fire fighting. And to maintain the fire break. Just throw away money because they think they have the right too. I have seen the same thing it the white mountains of N.H. This is one of the reasons the forest fires become so large. No access.Oh I know mother nature will take care of it. Oh and a few millon dollars also.
alright a new road, right up the creek, I'm sure there will be some that try that,
then they will say, oh! look at how irresponsible the public is...
submit a NOI for claim access for non-discretionary consideration
if its considered grandfathered under RS 2477 it could be maintained by the miners with heavy equipment, no NEPA or permits needed
If it truly is a fire break. Why where the trees placed across it. You would think. They would want clear access for fire fighting. And to maintain the fire break. Just throw away money because they think they have the right too. I have seen the same thing it the white mountains of N.H. This is one of the reasons the forest fires become so large. No access.Oh I know mother nature will take care of it. Oh and a few millon dollars also.
I'm new to it all and am curious as much as I am concerned. I don't think there is a lot of misuse of the land and environment by individual treasure hunters, but I know we all make an impact by disturbing nature. I've seen erosion be an issue because of fossil hunters. This made me wonder about other types of th-ing. I know we dig holes and such. I have myself. So I wonder what people do to keep things as natural as possible ie. as tampered with as little as possible. There are good reasons for doing so (there are a lot of people tromping around for one thing). I care very much about the environment, but I also try and stay objective.
Someone mentioned ranchers and such being close to the land and taking care of it in ways unlike other folk. This person brings up a good point. This is true. And yet I've seen the same people almost wipe out a predator species in their area, I've seen them use chemicals in their crops, seen them dump off dogs on the side of the road etc. So it isn't like this issue is black and white. What is true, is that we can all do things to respect nature better.
Personally I do have problems with large scale mining. I do have problems with people who just do whatever the heck they want to without consideration for others and for Nature. Most of ya'll seem to do your part which is commendable to me. I truly appreciate that, and feel you are the people I want to learn from.
So, I am here to learn, and to help share information. I hope bringing the subject up will keep it all on our minds. For some of you, this is old hat, for others, it isn't.
Now can we get back to sharing of the info? Lol
Ok this is wrong on so many levels, so let's begin.
Let's see, they didn't have the money to repair the road, but they had the money to document the activities of the prospectors by hiring interns? How much did they pay to cut down and move all those trees
The road required a NEPA to fix it? Guess the people never heard of a Categorical Exclusion that is commonly used by the Fecal Circus to close roads or repair them in case of damage.
Since when did "firebreaks" start getting road numbers? And since when did game trails need to be obliterated.? Guess those animals aren't so endangered after all since we can inhibit their travel to certain areas.
Someone needs to educate these people on the 1872 Mining Laws. A NOI is only required when you go mechanized along with a the required bond. The people need sued into oblivion and ridiculed into obscurity.
So to keep a few prospectors out the U.S. Fecal Circus, destroyed many acres of vegetation and also seriously inhabited the local wildlife's ability to move through the area. Wonder of there were any bird's nests in the tress they cut down? And considering the proximity to a stream, I wonder if they cleaned the equipment of oil to prevent any pollution of the stream.
Since this was a "firebreak" and was "recovered" by dropping large trees across it, that will eventually dry out and become a "fire bridge across the fire break" one has to wonder if these people really have any brains. They definitely haven't learn from the millions of acres burned from their past practices.
Yea, that right USFS, I called you both stupid and a sh!t circus. As my Professors told me, if your smart and graduate with honors, you end up working for the big outfits making big money. If your stupid, you end up making menial wages working for the USFS or BLM. And when things like this happen, the stupid really shows through. And by the way, since only certain people can use the forests and with your abysmal management of said forests, I am requesting the return of my tax dollars, with interest, so that we may hire someone that can properly manage said lands.
If they block the roads / trails in the forest , then how will the fire crews get to the eventual fires to put them out The fire fighters should be able to cite them for doing this!! And with the current fires going on EVERY YEAR this action of theirs is contemptable!