Evil Spirits

[Divinomagus]

In my experience I've come to believe that demons are real. If you're not careful, dowsing can open certain doors that should remain closed. These are ancient beings. They are very wise. You think you're smart and aware, but you likely won't see them before a lot of damage has been done. Whether you believe that dowsing is a physical and/or spiritual phenomenon, I would highly recommend approaching it from a state of spiritual purity. What that means for you is personal but please remember that you are stepping in to a theater of powerful forces. The power you're attempting to utilize is not a game to be "tested" in front of an audience. Stop bragging about it and feeling proud that you can do it. To carelessly speak of it is to profane something which should be kept sacred. Ultimately, the end result of your journey will depend on how well you managed to keep the doors shut. One of the major obstacles you face is that if you're not serving the darkness, those powers will do everything to prevent your success. Unfortunately they've been placed in defensive positions around much of the hidden riches in secret places. And as we all know, our good Father is not going to carelessly hand us our own destruction-- no matter how hard we beg. I'm telling you, if you're going to start doing this, you need to clean yourself up... A man speaking from experience here.

 

[Prairie Gazingfox]

In my experience I've come to believe that demons are real. If you're not careful, dowsing can open certain doors that should remain closed. These are ancient beings. They are very wise. You think you're smart and aware, but you likely won't see them before a lot of damage has been done. Whether you believe that dowsing is a physical and/or spiritual phenomenon, I would highly recommend approaching it from a state of spiritual purity. What that means for you is personal but please remember that you are stepping in to a theater of powerful forces. The power you're attempting to utilize is not a game to be "tested" in front of an audience. Stop bragging about it and feeling proud that you can do it. To carelessly speak of it is to profane something which should be kept sacred. Ultimately, the end result of your journey will depend on how well you managed to keep the doors shut. One of the major obstacles you face is that if you're not serving the darkness, those powers will do everything to prevent your success. Unfortunately they've been placed in defensive positions around much of the hidden riches in secret places. And as we all know, our good Father is not going to carelessly hand us our own destruction-- no matter how hard we beg. I'm telling you, if you're going to start doing this, you need to clean yourself up... A man speaking from experience here.

In other words, i see this to mean, a Teacher or a Nurse will never find something significant, even if they have equipped themselves with 5 Metal detectors..
As long as they stay preoccupied with their carrier responsibilities....
Even if they are spendin every Sunday searching.
And also,again on a more superficial lifestyle sense,." Be careful what you wish for You may just end up getting it"

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[Divinomagus]

Well, I was really coming from the perspective of dowsing for treasure. Because normally when a person is dowsing they are reaching in to the void for answers, whether they realize it or not. Everyone can see the lifeless objects you're holding in your hand, waiting for a response from someone or something. Who can fully understand such things? My point was to be careful with this process and make your intentions very pure if you hope to achieve accuracy. You have powerful forces working against your success. By taking part in the dowsing process, one is inviting a response from something within or outside of ourselves. We have our ideas but we don't know what that thing is, unless we've placed full faith and obedience in the Source of Truth. Anything outside of that Source, has not only the potential but the high likelihood of guiding you off course. The only definitive way to accuracy, to truth, is complete obedience and servitude to the King.

When it comes to every day people getting lucky enough to stumble upon enormous wealth with their metal detectors or otherwise it does happen. But we can all agree that it is very rare. Perhaps even more rare than winning the lottery. So it's understandable that, throughout the ages, treasure hunters have resorted to other more supernatural methods to achieve a higher possibility of success. I've come to believe that we can't expect help from helpful forces if deep down we don't intend to help even ourselves, much less anyone else. And the enemy is always lurking, searching for an opening to seize his prey.

 

[dowser]

In my experience I've come to believe that demons are real. If you're not careful, dowsing can open certain doors that should remain closed. These are ancient beings. They are very wise. You think you're smart and aware, but you likely won't see them before a lot of damage has been done. Whether you believe that dowsing is a physical and/or spiritual phenomenon, I would highly recommend approaching it from a state of spiritual purity. What that means for you is personal but please remember that you are stepping in to a theater of powerful forces. The power you're attempting to utilize is not a game to be "tested" in front of an audience. Stop bragging about it and feeling proud that you can do it. To carelessly speak of it is to profane something which should be kept sacred. Ultimately, the end result of your journey will depend on how well you managed to keep the doors shut. One of the major obstacles you face is that if you're not serving the darkness, those powers will do everything to prevent your success. Unfortunately they've been placed in defensive positions around much of the hidden riches in secret places. And as we all know, our good Father is not going to carelessly hand us our own destruction-- no matter how hard we beg. I'm telling you, if you're going to start doing this, you need to clean yourself up... A man speaking from experience here.

I'm an L-rod and Elements Dowser, and no thought for conjuring is needed.
The Spiritual part about demons, I'll agree.
But it's different type of Dowsing, in my opinion.

 

[Divinomagus]

I'm an L-rod and Elements Dowser, and no thought for conjuring is needed.
The Spiritual part about demons, I'll agree.
But it's different type of Dowsing, in my opinion.

The thing is, we haven't been able to measure any physical reactions taking place between the L-rods and whatever element we're searching for. You may have your theories about how everything is functioning when you dowse but nothing conclusive. I'm not doubting that you're right because I don't know either. But you still have to consider the possibility that you're practicing in divination no matter how you're choosing to communicate with the other side.

 

[Prairie Gazingfox]

The thing is, we haven't been able to measure any physical reactions taking place between the L-rods and whatever element we're searching for. You may have your theories about how everything is functioning when you dowse but nothing conclusive. I'm not doubting that you're right because I don't know either. But you still have to consider the possibility that you're practicing in divination no matter how you're choosing to communicate with the other side.

In Divination or in DEviation?
Thanks

 

[Divinomagus]

In Divination or in DEviation?
Thanks

Divination because you're attempting to gain information from supernatural sources. For me, if any information comes through at all, one has to assume that the source of that information is at least intelligent enough to respond to your questioning. The L-rods are clearly just lifeless objects. There's no wiring, no batteries, nothing. All the energy comes from you. So who is directing your energy to cause a relevant response? Can we really assume that it is only our own selves? Are the L-rods simply acting as a medium to feel out and explore our own intuition? It could very well be that we are divining data from our own ability to sense the universe, as images of the Creator, and the L-rods are how we subconsciously express the answers to ourselves. I can't prove the demons I'm talking about were not attracted by something else. Maybe they were not actually invited by the dowsing. But either way, we can say with certainty that demons can choose to manipulate you through the rods or pendulum. I've been a victim of that personally, on multiple occasions. The information that came through was shockingly and unexplainably accurate in certain areas. But the series of events were seemingly orchestrated in a way to cause destruction and ultimate failure. Long stories but, what occurred was obviously influenced by some other entity. Perhaps it was my fault that my quests ended without reaching the goal. Maybe I opened some doors. At the end of the day, I still stand by the original statement. You have to stay pure in spirit if you want the Master's key.

 

[Prairie Gazingfox]

Divination because you're attempting to gain information from supernatural sources. For me, if any information comes through at all, one has to assume that the source of that information is at least intelligent enough to respond to your questioning. The L-rods are clearly just lifeless objects. There's no wiring, no batteries, nothing. All the energy comes from you. So who is directing your energy to cause a relevant response? Can we really assume that it is only our own selves? Are the L-rods simply acting as a medium to feel out and explore our own intuition? It could very well be that we are divining data from our own ability to sense the universe, as images of the Creator, and the L-rods are how we subconsciously express the answers to ourselves. I can't prove the demons I'm talking about were not attracted by something else. Maybe they were not actually invited by the dowsing. But either way, we can say with certainty that demons can choose to manipulate you through the rods or pendulum. I've been a victim of that personally, on multiple occasions. The information that came through was shockingly and unexplainably accurate in certain areas. But the series of events were seemingly orchestrated in a way to cause destruction and ultimate failure. Long stories but, what occurred was obviously influenced by some other entity. Perhaps it was my fault that my quests ended without reaching the goal. Maybe I opened some doors. At the end of the day, I still stand by the original statement. You have to stay pure in spirit if you want the Master's key.

I am just gonna emphasize 1 or 2 things here ( because demons from other social engagements are pulling me apart/ consuming my time these days )
1)information I asked of my pendulum ( just like in your case ) was unexplainably accurate FOR THIS 1 INSTANCE OF asking for direction but the series of tests ( over say 3 week period )were orchestrated to make me lose time or seem like selfish to other people..... I totally agree here with you.
2) Outside of the Demons awakened by the Dowsing, I am 500 % detrimentally influenced by NON-forum people becoming immediately JEALOUS of my sharing information with such a person. They Subconsciously or even consciously CURSE ME, even if they like to hear things that are Rare and such.....No matter how good I have been to them on ordinary life.
So I stopped sharing with General or random Non- Forum listeners !
Their inner reaction always ruins everything......

 

[blauer]

I'm being haunted by the ghost of Carl Sagan!

Only reply if you get the reference!

 

[Prairie Gazingfox]

I am just gonna emphasize 1 or 2 things here ( because demons from other social engagements are pulling me apart/ consuming my time these days )
1)information I asked of my pendulum ( just like in your case ) was unexplainably accurate FOR THIS 1 INSTANCE OF asking for direction but the series of tests ( over say 3 week period )were orchestrated to make me lose time or seem like selfish to other people..... I totally agree here with you.
2) Outside of the Demons awakened by the Dowsing, I am 500 % detrimentally influenced by NON-forum people becoming immediately JEALOUS of my sharing information with such a person. They Subconsciously or even consciously CURSE ME, even if they like to hear things that are Rare and such.....No matter how good I have been to them on ordinary life.
So I stopped sharing with General or random Non- Forum listeners !
Their inner reaction always ruins everything......

I never wanted to become rich. At least not succeeding through dousing. Never entertained the idea years ago.
But I have to repay several people who were helping me when I was sick many years ago.
1 of them was a Powerful Reiki woman in her 60s. She herself , when i met her, had been living with the health aftereffects of a brain stroke for a good 25 years or more already.
She was treating, back then many patients per day, one after the other in a foreign country, for much bigger money than she LEARNED to accept in her later years, and 1 day after treating a certain number of people She just collapsed!
Was taken to a hospital and because it was a corrupt country back then, the Doctors took off her body all her gold jewelry..... basically stealing it. She said it was about 1 kg of jewelry she had on her. They took like almost all of it.
She was in a Coma or partial coma . ( dont remember for how long) and had no speech. But was singing small parts of Italian songs that she had learned when she was young and going on vacations to Italy.
She said one day in her sleep she DID see a Light and a voice told her " Get up Maria, get up, Many people still need your help!"
So she got out of the coma, recovered most of her physical movements and most of her original speech. But never recovered her finances.... But the Magic of Reiki returned to her.. Or I guess, it never had left her, even while bed-ridden....
She is dead now due to age, I can not repay her.
But i have to repay other people....
The reason I started dowsing is because I had injured quite bad some ligaments on both my arms. helping someone with 1 repair. I couldn't work manual job, and then things started getting more and more
" interesting", in phases, and occurring " faster than the heart can process" as 1 true Astrology person told me in her own words couple of years ago. So events started piling onto me in a way that Indeed at times felt faster than the heart can process......



Nevertheless she loved her Magic and was helping many people with no official specified charge.....

 

[Carl-NC]

I'm being haunted by the ghost of Carl Sagan!

Only in a demon-haunted world. If demons were real, the world would work in a very different way than it does. What we see as bizarre events are just outliers in a massive stream of randomness.

 

[DizzyDigger]

Divination because you're attempting to gain information from supernatural sources.

Based on what I have learned from Dowser, I would have to disagree with this statement.

Simply because we can't explain, or lack the ability to understand all the minor details (as in quantum physics) does not in any way deny that the study and research being conducted by Dowser is science, not something supernatural, light, dark or evil.

When it comes to particle physics, we don't even know what we don't know. We're like toddlers at a quantum preschool, just learning the basics. Every answer we get creates even more questions...but again, none of this is supernatural, it's simply mankind learning.

Through testing and with repeatable results, science has proven there are connections, entanglements and bonds between elements and particles. No demons required.

 

[ToddsPoint]

I'm being haunted by the ghost of Carl Sagan!

Only reply if you get the reference!

👻

 

[potsherd_creek]

Only in a demon-haunted world. If demons were real, the world would work in a very different way than it does. What we see as bizarre events are just outliers in a massive stream of randomness.

Looking at daily events in the world, it is not hard at all for me to see,

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. Ephesians 6:12

 

[Prairie Gazingfox]

Based on what I have learned from Dowser, I would have to disagree with this statement.

Simply because we can't explain, or lack the ability to understand all the minor details (as in quantum physics) does not in any way deny that the study and research being conducted by Dowser is science, not something supernatural, light, dark or evil.

When it comes to particle physics, we don't even know what we don't know. We're like toddlers at a quantum preschool, just learning the basics. Every answer we get creates even more questions...but again, none of this is supernatural, it's simply mankind learning.

Through testing and with repeatable results, science has proven there are connections, entanglements and bonds between elements and particles. No demons required.

I love the part" We don't even know what we don't know" . I believe it is so true!

 

[Divinomagus]

Only in a demon-haunted world. If demons were real, the world would work in a very different way than it does. What we see as bizarre events are just outliers in a massive stream of randomness.

Demons are real entities. Look around the world, it's easy to see their handiwork. Some of us have even managed to evoke such beings and witness them manifest in physical form. It's understandable that some don't believe they exist. They like to hide and are quite effective at it. The destroyers in the shadows.

 

[Divinomagus]

You guys should watch this when you have the time. Very interesting and informative.

 

[DizzyDigger]

Demons are real entities. Look around the world, it's easy to see their handiwork. Some of us have even managed to evoke such beings and witness them manifest in physical form. It's understandable that some don't believe they exist. They like to hide and are quite effective at it. The destroyers in the shadows.

Okie Dokie...ya got me convinced.

You want a real demon? You should have met my 3rd wife.

 

[Divinomagus]

Okie Dokie...ya got me convinced.

You want a real demon? You should have met my 3rd wife. View attachment 2210996

I know I won't convince anyone here. That's okay. I don't really want to anyways. It's not my place to have any influence on anyone's spiritual beliefs. But I did feel obligated to give a warning to dowsers. Someone outside of ourselves is listening sometimes.

 

[DizzyDigger]

So, do you consider dowsing as science, or a supernaturally assisted skill?