Fake discovery of the ship of Capt. Kidd

[Bobadilla]

It seems to me that Barry Clifford never learns.....

UNESCO discounts American explorer's claim of discovery of pirate treasure in Madagascar...
The account of an American underwater explorer who says he found a silver ingot that belonged to 17th century pirate Captain Kidd in Madagascar is false, the United Nations said Tuesday.
The so-called silver ingot is actually a piece of ballast that consists almost entirely of lead, the U.N. cultural body UNESCO said in a statement. It also dismissed assertions that the shipwreck of the Adventure Galley, a vessel belonging to Captain Kidd, had been found. The underwater structure was instead a broken segment from port construction, it said.
In May, explorer Barry Clifford presented what he said was the silver ingot to Madagascar's president in a ceremony on the island of Sainte Marie, near the country's northeast coast. Clifford's diving team had said the bar was found in a bay off the island.

UNESCO says Madagascar pirate treasure claim is false - US News

I just wonder which other "discovery" we will heard of, after "Santa Maria" and "Adventure Galley".....

Lobo

 

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[Vox veritas]

Lobo, UNESCO is very powerful!

 

[MPH200]

Why would a lead ballast weight have that many markings all over if it was just riding in the bottom of a ship?




Captain Kidd's treasure horde discovered off Madagascar is FAKE | Daily Mail Online

 

[ARC]

Like I said from the beginning...
That bar was too good.

 

[Vox veritas]

Pirate Captain Kidd silver treasure shipwreck discovery 'just broken part of port construction'

 

[Old Bookaroo]

Friends - I am the proud owner of a couple of genuine Barry Clifford Whydah caps - and a t-shirt that's around here somewhere. I believe those to be genuine. As for anything else...?

Many moons ago I visited the late, great Ken Kinkor in Provincetown on the Cape. He was struggling to keep the academic side of the enterprise afloat with very little funding and support. With his passing whatever shreds of integrity there once were passed, as well.

The little known "Walking the Plank: A True Adventure Among Pirates" by Stephen Kiesling (1994) tells the whole story. I highly recommend it.

Good luck to all,

The Old Bookaroo

 

[John Winter]

http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/s...te-capt-kidd-s-treasure-found-madagascar.html

 

[frankie]

I live here on the cape and tried to get on the Whidia crew when Barry first started here. But years later I found out that their was a marker at the Whidia site. It was their b-4 the Whidia was even discovered. Said Whidia sunk here 1717?? And it did. That struck me funny in a lot of ways. I'm not saying anything against anybody. But here is a pirate ship that sunk that has it's own marker at the site. We better stop over looking the small stuff on these wrecks. Ha Ha

 

[Old Bookaroo]

frankie: I believe you can read about that in Walk the Plank. I am not Mr. Clifford's biggest fan. However, it's difficult to get around the recovery of the Whydah's bell. A remarkable find! No real treasure - other than that bell.

The general location of a great many wrecks is known. As Frank Lloyd Wright is supposed to have said, the devil is in the details. I had someone object on Wikipedia when I said there are at least 150 shipwrecks in Lake Michigan's Manitou Passage, around North and South Manitou and along the shore across from them. An Internet mental giant asked how I could know there were that many if they haven't yet been found. I didn't bother to argue with that genius. Knowing they were lost is one thing. Finding, as Ben Gunn pointed out, can be another thing altogether.

Good luck to all,

The Old Bookaroo

 

[ECS]

...
That bar was too good.

I've been to bars like that!

 

[Boatlode]

What moron would try to pass off a lead ingot as a silver bar? Didn't Clifford think they would test it?

 

[Alexandre]

"Months later, something else struck Clifford. This time, it was a shoe dropped by UNESCO".

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/07/16/unesco-buried-explorer-barry-cliffords-captain-kidd-discovery-and-he-is-freaking-out/