Pirate Capt Kidds treasure found in Madagascar ?

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Pirate Capt Kidd's 'treasure' found in Madagascar ?

Pirate Capt Kidd's 'treasure' found in Madagascar - BBC News

 

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[Bobadilla]

Well..... If it could not be "Santa Maria", so let's try at least Capt. Kidd's treasure wreck.... The same mistakes. Somebody just never learn..... "Adventure Galley" was in so bad state that she was indeed deliberately scuttled off the coast of Madagascar and she was supposed to be found in 1999, together with several other ships in the bay (not now, in 2015...) But the most important fact that strikes me in this specific case is that according to all the available historical documents, the "Adventure Galley" was "...stripped off all the valuables before she was scuttled...." Now Barry Clifford finds huge silver bar that I indeed doubt that the pirates would forget it inside the ship's hull, and this single silver bar is for him the proof that it is the wreck of "Adventure Galley". No ship bell needed, no ship's guns (they were also removed, by the way), no other identification needed. One silver bar is just sufficient for the positive identification of the wreck.... I have never heard something like that in my 35 years of experience, but may be, I am wrong and old fashioned...

Regards to all,
Lobo

 

[John Winter]

Probably ... possibly ... could be ... perhaps ...

Last week I found a little (I MEAN small) silver ring in my back garden. Many years ago this plot of land was part of the main highway leading to Windsor Castle, often travelled by Prince Albert with coach and four. You may think this is a piercing and improbable story but DNA analysis (courtesy of the Jeremy Kyle show) shows that the ring probably belonged to him and was lost whilst he was relieving himself during a comfort stop on the long journey.

http://ep.yimg.com/ay/yhst-27367612611215/prince-albert-piercing-captive-bead-ring-3.gif

The Bucks Herald has been out taking pictures, but I graciously declined when the pretty girl reporter asked if I would demonstrate how the ring was worn. Expect this story to go world-wide soon. BTW, I mentioned that I was a member of the TreasureNet forum. I bet she doesn't mention that. Got to go - the BBCs Good Morning programme is trying the contact me ....

THIS STORY IS BUNKUM
Captain Kidd's treasure horde discovered off Madagascar is FAKE | Daily Mail Online

Please note - the Daily Mail doesn't understand the difference between HORDE and HOARD

 

[Alexandre]

Full report here:

Mission to Madagascar | United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization

 

[old man]

Full report here:

Mission to Madagascar | United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization

I hate to say this, but I don't believe anything that UNESCO puts in a report.

UNESCO claims the wood is from pilings. I doubt the porcelain and gold coins came from those pilings.
Then Unesco claims they came from a French ship.

While I have no way of knowing if this was or wasn't Capt Kidds ship. I sure as heck don't believe anything
that an anti treasure hunting group posts.

 

[Red_desert]

They want to see the gold coins which in their words would "authenticate the site" and the coins were absent from inventory.

 

[Alexandre]

Well, would you believe in John de Bry? He was there and he helped to write to report...

I hate to say this, but I don't believe anything that UNESCO puts in a report.

UNESCO claims the wood is from pilings. I doubt the porcelain and gold coins came from those pilings.
Then Unesco claims they came from a French ship.

While I have no way of knowing if this was or wasn't Capt Kidds ship. I sure as heck don't believe anything
that an anti treasure hunting group posts.

 

[Old Bookaroo]

"1 In addition to Michel L'Hour (archaeologist) the team was composed of Frederic Lucas (professional diver), Lila Reboul(archaeologist, specialist for treatment in conservation and restoration of artefacts found under water), Frédéric Osada(Photographer), Jean‐Christophe Peyre (logistician), Jonathan Sharfman (archaeologist) and Auron Tare (archaeologist). Anassociated specialist was John de Bry, historian with an archaeological background, who had participated in the priorcampaigns around Ilot Madame. The team benefitted from the scientific advice of Frederic Guibal, dendrochronologist,Jean‐Bernard Memet, corrosion and metallographic analysis specialist for as well as Zhao Bing, specialist for Chineseporcelain etc."

Eleven members and three of them named "Frederic." They obviously knew what they were doing!

Good luck to all,

The Old Bookaroo

(And they even spelt "Frederic" correctly!)