First silver hammered of the year

[hodge]

A spur of the moment decision to get out detecting this morning resulted in a totally unexpected find. I only had the morning free as I'd made a commitment to do one or two jobs at home today. I went to a field that I'd detected on a number of times before, and had found a reasonable number of old coins - including hammered silver coinage of Edward 1st & 2nd. I'd set a deadline of 11:30am at which I'd pack up & get off home to get the jobs done. Only found 4 coins in the 2 1/2 hour session, these were pre-decimal pennies dated to 1875 & 1953, a halfpenny of 1872...and the big one... a Silver Groat of Edward IV, date range of 1464 - 1870. Validated at www.ukdfd.co.uk - (reference 23462)
A very nice coin, and my first silver of any type in 2010.

 

[hodge]

I found a couple of £ coins on Saturday....don't they look bad, after just a few years in the soil. Can't imagine what they'd be like after a few decades....

I once tried to get through the Dartford tolls with one and the bloke insisted it was a fake, he wanted to back me out

Yep, they can be a bugger to get rid of

 

[hodge]

That's going to be a Banner!

Does anyone else think that "Banner" would be appropriate for this find?

I think it's hard to judge for something like that for a lot of us. Where does it rank for you for best finds? Do similar coins turn up often in that condition? The reason it's tough is because it would probably feel like a banner find to some people, but not to others. For example I dug a cob which made it right away and was something I wasn't really thinking about, but then i had another find which I thought was a no brainer and it didn't happen. With so much history you guys are probably held to higher standard, and maybe rightfully so. Challenge sometimes is a good thing.


I've got to agree with your statement Iron Patch. I based my opinion on the pride & enthusiasm I have for the coin. Cru said that in his "over 20 years detecting that he'd only ever dug two". My two detecting friends have never dug one in their 12 years (each) in the hobby. Of course your right, I should accept that the important thing is to enjoy the hobby & enjoy the finds I make, and maybe i'll be nominated for the banner next time?

 

[Silver Searcher]

Some people will go a whole life time with out finding a coin such as yours outhers will have better luck and find several, if your coil doesn't pass over one then you won't find one just all down to luck :P
I have found quite a few Groats HenryV111, Edward111(hoard of groats) Edward1V, and three Mary groats, and she was only on the throne for one year.... on her own, it's mainly down to luck PS the HenryV111 groat was a cracker, it never made the Banner

SS

 

[WhiteHunter]

Well done thats a massive coin thanks for shareing

 

[hodge]

Silver Searcher - I agree totally, I've always said that you need to walk over it to find it.
WhiteHunter - Cheers mate.
hodge

 

[CRUSADER]

I found a couple of £ coins on Saturday....don't they look bad, after just a few years in the soil. Can't imagine what they'd be like after a few decades....

I once tried to get through the Dartford tolls with one and the bloke insisted it was a fake, he wanted to back me out

Yep, they can be a bugger to get rid of

I never have a problem, just clean them a bit.

I checked my collection - 1 Henry V, 1 Henry VI, (2 or 3 Mary's) - so only 5 max. Although I found them all, if you factor Cru'Dad as well that is 5 in 30 years combined hunting.
Trying taking a photo next to a US coin to show the size a bit bettter...

 

[hodge]

Now thats a good tip...using a US coin for scale, yep I'll do that next time I post a photo.
Thanks Cru...
hodge

 

[CRUSADER]

Now thats a good tip...using a US coin for scale, yep I'll do that next time I post a photo.
Thanks Cru...
hodge

I was on the fence on the Banner Nom. as although its a rarely found coin its not classified as such. Looking at past finds on the Banner yours beats many, but I agree with IP you can't guess when it might happen. I have had a few no brainers, never make it & other commonish finds get up there
Best forget about it & don't make it your aim, as it really makes no difference to the thrill of finding & owning it

 

[Iron Patch]

That's going to be a Banner!

Does anyone else think that "Banner" would be appropriate for this find?

I think it's hard to judge for something like that for a lot of us. Where does it rank for you for best finds? Do similar coins turn up often in that condition? The reason it's tough is because it would probably feel like a banner find to some people, but not to others. For example I dug a cob which made it right away and was something I wasn't really thinking about, but then i had another find which I thought was a no brainer and it didn't happen. With so much history you guys are probably held to higher standard, and maybe rightfully so. Challenge sometimes is a good thing.


I've got to agree with your statement Iron Patch. I based my opinion on the pride & enthusiasm I have for the coin. Cru said that in his "over 20 years detecting that he'd only ever dug two". My two detecting friends have never dug one in their 12 years (each) in the hobby. Of course your right, I should accept that the important thing is to enjoy the hobby & enjoy the finds I make, and maybe i'll be nominated for the banner next time?

Sounds like banner criteria as well as some self satisfaction. Either way you can't lose. When something doesn't make the banner I use it as motivation to try and find something so good I couldn't possibly be denied!

 

[Kanyontreasures]

great finds!!

 

[jdsarasin8194]

Whats the value of that coin in USA dollars?

 

[CRUSADER]

Whats the value of that coin in USA dollars?

To you $3000 (we know how you like the history)

 

[hodge]

Whats the value of that coin in USA dollars?

To you $3000 (we know how you like the history)

SOLD!! to the man in MA....
to be serious...about $330 - $350 top book price, maybe $500 on ebay.

 

[49r Relics]

That's going to be a Banner!

Does anyone else think that "Banner" would be appropriate for this find?

I think it's hard to judge for something like that for a lot of us. Where does it rank for you for best finds? Do similar coins turn up often in that condition? The reason it's tough is because it would probably feel like a banner find to some people, but not to others. For example I dug a cob which made it right away and was something I wasn't really thinking about, but then i had another find which I thought was a no brainer and it didn't happen. With so much history you guys are probably held to higher standard, and maybe rightfully so. Challenge sometimes is a good thing.

Exactly what I was going to say. The coin is amazing, the bust on the coin looks just like what I think of when I think of a king from that time period. It's silver and hammered.. But, I just don't know how rare of a find it really is for a UK detectorist. Trust me, if I found that coin, it would be considered the find of a lifetime for me and it sure would look good on the banner, I just can't nominate it because of a genuine lack of knowledge. I am getting a chance to go visit a friend in Kent this year, it will be my first trip to the UK but unfortunately, I won't be around anyone else who detects and won't have any way of doing any research before I get there to get permission, I will bring the E-Trac though just in case. You guys/gals are the definition of "Treasure Hunters", capable of finding a national treasure everytime you go out.

Cheers, Mark

 

[Woodland Detectors]

Very nice coin!

 

[hodge]

Exactly what I was going to say. The coin is amazing, the bust on the coin looks just like what I think of when I think of a king from that time period. It's silver and hammered.. But, I just don't know how rare of a find it really is for a UK detectorist. Trust me, if I found that coin, it would be considered the find of a lifetime for me and it sure would look good on the banner, I just can't nominate it because of a genuine lack of knowledge. I am getting a chance to go visit a friend in Kent this year, it will be my first trip to the UK but unfortunately, I won't be around anyone else who detects and won't have any way of doing any research before I get there to get permission, I will bring the E-Trac though just in case. You guys/gals are the definition of "Treasure Hunters", capable of finding a national treasure everytime you go out.

Cheers, Mark

Thanks for the kind words Mark.
Just a thought on your visit to Kent later in the year... (might be useful!?)... Why not try www.multimap.com (or Google Earth) to view the area in which your friend lives. Mulitmap in particular is useful because you can select 'OS MAP' option, this gives a wealth of info - including farm names etc... you can flick between aerial / os map views. Its all good stuff so take a look, you may be able to get ideas of locations to detect before you even leave the US. I'd be interested to know how you get on over here!!
Anyway, good luck mate.

 

[jdsarasin8194]

Whats the value of that coin in USA dollars?

To you $3000 (we know how you like the history)

SOLD!! to the man in MA....
to be serious...about $330 - $350 top book price, maybe $500 on ebay.

Thats a great coin ,
I'd take it

 

[SkyPirate]

Very Nice!

 

[CRUSADER]

Bump.

Will be some time until we see another hammered as nice as this on Tnet

 

[Dman]

Amazing coin. Congrats
Dman