fish hooks, sinkers, net weights

[larson1951]

here are a few hooks along with some sinkers or net weights
note the last sinker has a turkey track or something on each side of it

 

[The Grim Reaper]

Very cool pieces Larson. Killer Fish Hooks and those Sinkers are really neat too. I really like the one with the crows foot on it.

 

[Martingeetars]

Not crows feet, Its the first Peace sign! You always come up with the neatest stuff.

 

[Tnmountains]

Larson
I was looking at that Turkey track on that rock. Do you think there is any way they may have used those stones as weapons? Maybe as a bola? That would be good to bring down a turkey and the track would make sense. I mean why put a turkey track on a fishing weight?? You know where they tie three rocks on ropes and throw it entangling prey? Just food for thought.

 

[coteau]

Amazing artifacts as usual, larson!

That bird track design is really cool. I know I've seen that bird track design on quite a few artifacts, but I just can't remember where...

For those that are GIRS members, there is a similar bird track design in Prehistoric American, pg. 28, #3, 2009. The design is etched into a celt found in Georgia.

 

[larson1951]

thanks coteau, what is GIRS ??

 

[quito]

GIRS Lars is the Genuine Indian Relic Society. They put out a great magazine, a very nice calender, and they now have an online newsletter called The Point.

Google GIRS and check em out.

Joel

 

[larson1951]

thanks joel and coteau

does any one out have that magazine so they cou post an image of that celt?

I really would like to see it

thanks, Lars

 

[quito]

I can dig my copy out and try to get a pic for you lars.

Joel

 

[larson1951]

thanks joel

also thanks TO TnMts for your idea, it makes sense
my wife said she has seen them used on turkeys before and she is Sioux nation heritage (Blue Dog)

Lars

 

[archer66]

Awesome fish hooks.

 

[larson1951]

refering to my last post
my wife is from the Sisseton sioux nation by Sisseton, South Dakota
there is a lake nearby at Waubay, South Dakota named Blue Dog Lake after my mother in law
it is close to Enemy Swim lake
this is where the Sioux made their enemy the Chippewa (the real name is Ojibwa but the pronunciation was hard for the white man so they said "Chippewa") swim across the lake when they drove them out of the area (many people drowned) TRUE STORY

THANKS LARS

 

[larson1951]

here is the celt with the same marking on it, very interesting
thanks to pickaway for the image
lars

 

[pickaway]

Theres also a large rock here in Ohio called turkey foot rock as it is covered in tracks like that. Here's a link to some info on it,
http://www.ohiohistorycentral.org/entry.php?rec=3131

 

[larson1951]

link to picture of turkey foot rock
you can see the best looking at the right hand side of the photo


http://www.hmdb.org/PhotoFullSize.asp?PhotoID=65616

 

[pickaway]

cool, lars, I got some pics in a book somewhere i'll dig it out it, shows the tracks alot better...

 

[archer66]

Larson...

Do you live near sisseton? I was in SD back in October pheasant hunting in the Watertown area. One day we drove north to Sisseton.

Chris

 

[bravowhiskey]

Hey Larson,

You never stop amazing folks with your finds. The design of the fish hooks makes me think about their fishing methods. They would have to have sat with a taught line and more or less lifted the fish from the water with the slightest bite. As there is no barb and the hook would not have stayed put. Either that or they let the fish swallow the hook. Have you ever seen an indian fish hook with a barb? Is that a modern adaptation, I wonder?
Very nice collection. I have only one and it is of flint.
Keep 'em coming.

BW

 

[larson1951]

I am a right in the middle of the dakotas, quite a ways from sisseton to the nw

these people left the hooks in the water over night so that the fish would swallow the hook
they caught catfish,walleye, sauger, freshwater drum, and large & smallmouth buffalo which were big
I have found awls and needles made from catfish pectoral spikes and one huge awl that had to have come from a 75 pound cat
i will post a few more hooks one huge hook and some tiny one in my next post
they are in a frame of mixed pieces
lars

 

[pickaway]

Heres a few pics of turkey foot rock.