🔎 UNIDENTIFIED Found Far down the rabbit hole, Magic treasure knife

[Joecoins]

Treasure? For finding treasure?
Wand/ athame?
Aha Bes / Beset . Lingam, magic sigils. Gorgon...yali..etc...
Purchased last year on eBay.
After a series of incredible finds including bonafide athames and magic swords.
I found myself researching magical treasure hunting for fun. I had a book about the topic that I highly recommend. It was something like , Magical treasure hunting in Europe and North America.
I found myself looking at more stuff on eBay when I found this peice. It was unique so I bought it. In research I have come up with some ideas and it lead to researching down many rabbit holes. Anyone got some knowlege orcan point me in the right direction? Unfortunately no xrf analyzers nearby. And not many researches on these things
Thanks
It is kinda sharp I imagine it can be sharpened it is quite solid. Doesn't look like a typical letter opener to me...
Not with the sigils....

 

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[Joecoins]

My research has led me to such things as by

 

[pepperj]

Treasure? For finding treasure?
Wand/ athame?
Aha Bes / Beset . Lingam, magic sigils. Gorgon...yali..etc...
Purchased last year on eBay.
After a series of incredible finds including bonafide athames and magic swords.
I found myself researching magical treasure hunting for fun. I had a book about the topic that I highly recommend. It was something like , Magical treasure hunting in Europe and North America.
I found myself looking at more stuff on eBay when I found this peice. It was unique so I bought it. In research I have come up with some ideas and it lead to researching down many rabbit holes. Anyone got some knowlege orcan point me in the right direction? Unfortunately no xrf analyzers nearby. And not many researches on these things
Thanks
It is kinda sharp I imagine it can be sharpened it is quite solid. Doesn't look like a typical letter opener to me...
Not with the sigils....
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Looks like a cast brass letter opener.
What is the size of it?

 

[Joecoins]

7 1/4 inch

 

[pepperj]

7 1/4 inch

Letter opener for the mail.
Hope you didn't think it was going to be doing some magical stuff for you.
OBTW The blade will get a bit sharp, but from being made of brass, never a good edge will be held.

 

[Joecoins]

Seen many letter openers never one like this.
The make of this one looks very old
The special sigils aswell
Treasures can hide in plain sight
If you can't see the trees through the forest. Magic treasures even disappear until "found again"

 

[pepperj]

Seen many letter openers never one like this.
The make of this one looks very old
The special sigils aswell
Treasures can hide in plain sight
If you can't see the trees through the forest. Magic treasures even disappear until "found again"

The casting seam that runs up the side of the handle has "New-made to look old look"
Sorry but it is what it is.
The only magical thing is that you can believe that it might be something else.

 

[Joecoins]

You see new made to look old
I see genuine age
No need to be sorry , I'm very glad it is as it is and that I found it.
There were many tools needed for magical treasure hunting. I don't claim that is has actual magic powers. There are also many symbolic or ritual knives that are similar. I am just happy to have the object and its history . Any magic is a bonus. It as already payed me back greatly in many ways. And may have more to offer to others so interested in researching.
What's your view on the image represented on the guard. What's your interpretation of the sigils?

 

[pepperj]

You see new made to look old
I see genuine age
No need to be sorry , I'm very glad it is as it is and that I found it.
There were many tools needed for magical treasure hunting. I don't claim that is has actual magic powers. There are also many symbolic or ritual knives that are similar. I am just happy to have the object and its history . Any magic is a bonus. It as already payed me back greatly in many ways. And may have more to offer to others so interested in researching.
What's your view on the image represented on the guard. What's your interpretation of the sigils?

I really believe that your magical letter opener is a new casted brass item.
There's no age to it as you can see he mold seam filed/ground off.
The image(s) on the hilt is a sand script of sorts.
When you bought this what was the story that went with the sale of it?

 

[Joecoins]

You may believe that ,like many others may on first glance. The seller sold it as vintage solid brass sword letter opener. After all, rather inexpensive . No further info. A general thrift reseller on eBay.
I was looking among brass letter openers... actually for something special, Wich does turn up often enough for me. This one is special enough for me ,very much so.

I don't find any logic or conclusive evidence with your observation.
Two part molds have been in use like forever. This could be 50 yrs 500 yrs or thousands of years and made in said fashion.

 

[Tony in SC]

It's cast brass!

 

[Joecoins]

It's cast brass!

So what if it is?
Could it not be bronze?
Or a special alloy type?
Electrum ?. Like those Gorgon coins...
Or orichalcum...?
Brass is good too... Why not...
The symbolism and intent is the mystery and treasure.
I looked at some Sanskrit symbols atleast this is a constructive direction thanks.

 

[Blackfoot58]

You may believe that ,like many others may on first glance. The seller sold it as vintage solid brass sword letter opener. After all, rather inexpensive . No further info. A general thrift reseller on eBay.
I was looking among brass letter openers... actually for something special, Wich does turn up often enough for me. This one is special enough for me ,very much so.

I don't find any logic or conclusive evidence with your observation.
Two part molds have been in use like forever. This could be 50 yrs 500 yrs or thousands of years and made in said fashion.

Vintage only means the age is pertinent to a specific time period.
I have a vintage bottle of catsup in my fridge. It’s vintage circa 2022.
It sounds like you are enjoying your time. That is great. Read The Hobbit. It has magical treasure and daggers.

 

[ticndig]

The seller sold it as vintage solid brass sword letter opener. After all, rather inexpensive . No further info.

then how does the magic come in to play?, we would love to hear about the magical powers.

 

[creskol]

It is what it is and it ain't what it ain't.

 

[Doubter in MD]

then how does the magic come in to play?, we would love to hear about the magical powers.

Well it seems to have US captivated.

 

[pepperj]

You may believe that ,like many others may on first glance. The seller sold it as vintage solid brass sword letter opener. After all, rather inexpensive . No further info. A general thrift reseller on eBay.
I was looking among brass letter openers... actually for something special, Wich does turn up often enough for me. This one is special enough for me ,very much so.

I don't find any logic or conclusive evidence with your observation.
Two part molds have been in use like forever. This could be 50 yrs 500 yrs or thousands of years and made in said fashion.

Well you answered some real important questions-Thank You

Origin: A general thrift reseller on eBay
Sold as: Vintage
(the word "vintage" should be used only in context with a particular vintage/age/era from which something originates. By itself, with no reference to which vintage something is from, the term is misleading if not totally useless.)

Logic: Well let's go with simple logic when purchasing a said item off the eBay, or any other reseller site.
It so unregulated in regards to any authenticity of age of a sale item.
The item could very well be from a mass production run, or a backyard foundry in some country that turns out product for sale to tourists.
Casted from remelted brass is evident in the sand casted, mechanically ground off mold seam.

Though your classification of it being "Athame" isn't entirely correct: An athame is a ceremonial blade, generally with a black handle. It is the main ritual implement or magical tool mount several used in ceremonial magic traditions, and other neopagans, witchcraft, as well as satanic traditions.

For it being special to you: Probably that's what counts in the end-you're happy, you believe it's magical.

 

[Joecoins]

Just because someone calls it vintage doesn't mean it isn't antique .
I bought a so called vintage dagger once at auction sold the vintage peice already... it was A 16c Naval Dirk.

As for what it is and isnt,
it is symbolic in shape.
It is present with special symbols applied
It is old
What it isn't is new
And it isn't something with a similar example as far as I look.
The magic isn't relevant to the research I need help with. Getting people to appreciate the object on its own is hard enough..
I know much about the black handled athame. I got the best one in the world. Came to me a bit before this alloy one..

 

[Joecoins]

Also the seam looks hand filed and there is different pattern and sizes of file marks.
While there always is the potential of backyard manufacture is it not also possible it is done long time ago...like centuries ago...
I think calling it athame is appropriate. Better then just calling it a rod
Noble metal athames I hear are good for when iron could be offensive...

 

[Joecoins]

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